Marius Posted April 14, 2014 Report Posted April 14, 2014 Dear All, again, my friend's sword and (bad) pictures. This time the sword is an unsigned naginata naoshi with the following measurements: Nagasa: 49.2cm Sori: 1.2cm Motohaba: 2.8cm Kasane: 0.5cm This time I have my own opinon regarding this sword (not worth much, but still). If you wish, I can post a spoiler here, but I am asking for your unbiased opinion. Many thanks for looking Quote
Marius Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Posted April 14, 2014 Chris, anything is possible, with such strong Yamato traits. Why do you think Kanabo may be a good guess? Quote
paulb Posted April 14, 2014 Report Posted April 14, 2014 Hi Mariusz with the strong sunagashi my first reaction was Shikkake. However I cant see the boshi clearly and what I can see lacks the "old mans beard" lines of nie running from it which is a give away for that school. The strong nie and flowing hamon might make Shizu worth comparison. in the absense of a better idea I would go Yamato, Tegai (simply because they were the most prolific) or as you mention a Kanebo school work. But it could equally be one of the other Yamato influenced schools. not much help but amongst this lot the answer may lurk Quote
Marius Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Posted April 14, 2014 Chris, Paul, thanks for the ideas. Of course I know how difficult it is to try to attribute a blade with (low quality) pictures only... As to shape - do you think Nambokucho/early Muromachi is a good call? Quote
Brian Posted April 14, 2014 Report Posted April 14, 2014 Mariusz, Not sure the usual katana sugata/shape dating system can be used on a naganaki. I suspect they didn't follow the usual sword shapes, or curvature rules. Just guessing here though. Brian Quote
cabowen Posted April 14, 2014 Report Posted April 14, 2014 It has Yamato traits as you mention, but not what I would think of as pure Yamato. In addition, the jigane is not as refined. Kanebo also is known for their pole arms. I would think later Muromachi. Just my off the cuff guess from the photos. Quote
Marius Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Posted April 14, 2014 Chris, thank you, that sounds pretty logical :-) I was thinking (ko)Uda, a prolific Yamato offshoot... Quote
Jean Posted April 14, 2014 Report Posted April 14, 2014 I'll say sue Muromachi, Darcy had a Mino Kanefusa naginata naoshi a few years ago very much like this. Quote
Marius Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Posted April 14, 2014 I'll say sue Muromachi Apart from Darcy's naginata naoshi, what makes you think late Muromachi Jean? Hada? Hamon? Not that I disagree, of course Quote
Jean Posted April 14, 2014 Report Posted April 14, 2014 Because of the hada (what can be seen from the pictures....) makes me think of Kanabo. http://www.japaneseswordcollector.com/kanabo/kan1.html Look at the kitae Quote
cabowen Posted April 14, 2014 Report Posted April 14, 2014 Chris, thank you, that sounds pretty logical :-) I was thinking (ko)Uda, a prolific Yamato offshoot... Seems a bit too "yamato" for Uda.... Quote
paulb Posted April 14, 2014 Report Posted April 14, 2014 not wanting to answer for Chris or Jean but Ko-Uda work I have seen has much finer hada, it looks better and has a prolific amount of jinie which I dont see in this. Having said that I have only seen a few in hand and there was considerable variation even within that small sample. Quote
Marius Posted April 15, 2014 Author Report Posted April 15, 2014 Gentlemen, Thank you for your time and your input. I appreciate it Quote
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