lotus Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 I am trying to identify the attached tsuba. Dimensions are round 80x80x6mm (thick). The Japanese to English translation of the description contains both Kanayama and Owari words. From references, the large size and rounded rim (rounded everything really) and non-elongated hitsu-anas do not seem to fit Kanayama. It seems to fit an Owari attribution slightly better due to overall size not too mention Owari likes the bracken design. Does not seem delicate enough for Kyo and too symmetrical with no sense of movement to be Ko-Shoami. What do you guys in the know think? Quote
hxv Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 Hi, Kanayama tsuba are usually quite a bit smaller. I usually see them at smaller sizes than 7cm. Nice tsuba! Regards, Hoanh Quote
Soshin Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 Hi Patrick R., To me it looks like a Tochibata tsuba. They were a group of blacksmiths and other iron metalworkers that would also make tsuba in the Edo Period. Here is an example on Grey's website: http://www.japaneseswordbooksandtsuba.com/store/holbrook-tsuba/h139-tochibata Hope you find this information helpful. Yours truly, David Stiles Quote
Ron STL Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 this sure looks Kanayama except for its size. Always exceptions to the rule (small size, etc.) Any prominent "bones" in the rim? First I've heard of Tochibata tsuba, but the tsuba on Grey's site look a lot newer than this handsome tsuba. Ron STL Quote
Soshin Posted February 23, 2013 Report Posted February 23, 2013 Hi Ron STL, I noticed what you are talking about in interms of the iron but the design does remind me of Tochibana tsuba I have seen. To me the size and also the rim shape doesn't remind me a Kanayama tsuba. The question about iron bones is a good one as Kanayama often have iron bones sometimes very large ones. The board shaped seppa-dai also reminds me of Owari Province tsuba so it might get the Owari sukashi classification. Well it is off to Tampa tomorrow bright and early. Yours truly, David Stiles Quote
Curran Posted February 23, 2013 Report Posted February 23, 2013 Tochibata. (see Nihonto Koza, Harry Watson's translations) also search on Tochibata on NMB. I believe we discussed a very similar tsuba in another thread. Quote
lotus Posted February 23, 2013 Author Report Posted February 23, 2013 That explains why it did not quite fit either one. I will look into this Tochibata. Thanks guys and enjoy Tampa, I am jealous!! Quote
Curran Posted February 24, 2013 Report Posted February 24, 2013 Yes, you should be jealous. Having more fun than anticipated. Seen better quality on some tables than in previous years, and some very nice things have changed hands at prices less than they would in Japan. Definitely much less than they would cost in Europe. Quote
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