special naval landing force kai gunto?

[Eric M]

hello

i was wondering if some of you came accross a special naval landing force kai gunto?

i read that "By the teachings of a battle of the Shanghai incident, two suspension mounts were inconvenient to a landing force's officer practically."

should all the kai gunto with 1 suspension mount (and with the normal kai gunto tsuka and tsuba) considered as special naval landing force kai gunto?

thx

eric

[SwordGuyJoe]

I am assuming that by naval landing force kai gunto, you are referring to the Late 44 mount Shin-gunto. If so, I would say if you found a frankenstein (pieced together from type 98 and late 44 shin-gunto's) and not a "special" kai gunto.

 

Edit: Pictures would help a lot here.

[george trotter]

Hi Eric, can you start off by telling us where you read this statement please?

Regards,

[Eric M]

i read it on Ohmura's Gunto Site

thinking more of a real kai gunto made for the "imperial marines" officers (not the frankestein version made end of war)

[patrick7813]

Hi Eric

 

It is my understanding that Japanese naval forces attached to land (army) units had kai gunto with shin gunto saya characteristics, specifically one suspension hanger, but in a black lacquered finish. The Japanese did not have an established “marine” force during WW2. These kai gunto typically had the tsuka wrapped with black stained canvas (vice ray skin) under brown silk Ito and with a simple seppa, ovoid blackened tsuba, seppa combination. Fuller and Gregory’s “Japanese Military and Civil Swords and Dirks” has an excellent discussion.

 

Cheers,

[Eric M]

thx Patrick

for the "marines", i think the SNLF were considered as the "Japanese marines"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_S ... ing_Forces

[Kai-Gunto]

Shanghai was in 1932 and they used this type 1883 for officers.

 

The kaigunto was introduced in 1937.