vit Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 Hello and thank you for your knowledge in advance ! I am currently in Japan (and will be here for the next couple of months) and found an antique store with a couple of Katanas. Unfortunately, I do not have much knowledge when it comes to this topic. I heard that there are many 'cheap' and mass produced swords out there, so I am afraid I am holding one of these in my hand, and not an authentic edo-sword. The Kanji on the tang reads Tadayoshi 忠吉 Sorry, I didn't take as many pictures! The vendor is asking 260.000 Yen for this piece. Does this sound reasonable ? It comes in a Shirasaya only. Thank you very much for your help ! Quote
Ray Singer Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 Vit, the blade is signed Tadayoshi as is indeed an authentic Edo period sword. However there were many blades with gimei (fake inscriptions) from the Hizen Tadayoshi school and I could suggest holding for something with papers (kanteisho) which this does not have. The attached document is simply a torokusho sword license and does not authenticate the inscription or give any type of attribution for the sword. 3 Quote
vit Posted April 8 Author Report Posted April 8 Interesting. Thank you very much! I assume a fake Tadayoshi, even from the Edo period, does not hold the same value, but does that mean its automatically worthless ? The vendor also added that a wavy hamon would be something only modern (or post Edo) blacksmiths are adding. That sounds a bit odd, right? Quote
klee Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 Certainly not worthless since it is still an authentic nihonto. And depending on the blade condition/size 260,000 yen is quite resonable esp for a long blade. I wouldnt mind paying that if I loved a blade that I knew was gimei. 1 Quote
oli Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 (edited) It depends how big is your budget. Blade with papers would be better as beginner, books should be the first to start. In Japan you have the opportunity to study a lot of nice swords in museums. Don't miss this opportunity. And also look into other sword shops. Edited April 8 by oli 1 Quote
Ray Singer Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 32 minutes ago, vit said: On the Torokusho it says 72 (I assume cm?) Yes, Nagasa: 72.0cm. The fact that it is daito length and signed katana-mei (on the katana side of the nakago) is not a good sign as far as being a legitimate mainline Hizen-to. 5 Quote
oli Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 I don't think it's a Hizen Tadayoshi Gimei, I think it only a lesser known smith, what used the same name. But to be sure, you must send it to a Shinsa (NBTHK, NTHK) 1 Quote
vit Posted April 9 Author Report Posted April 9 Thank you very much ! Unfortunately I do live in Southend Japan and Shinsa is far away. I will think about the purchase and confront the seller if he has any other form of documentation. Quote
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