NORIMITSU but which and where/when?

[nihonto_1]

Hello all - 

 

So -  new to this (trying to use the right terminology so excuse any spelling mistakes) - bought a nihonto a while ago - decided i need to learn more to work out more about the blade, so then for some reason i bought this one (um maybe books would be better) - the Hamon caught my eye - not really the Mei (well ok that added some intrigue)

 

I am reading allot and learning allot - and plan to continue to do so - but just thought i would throw this out there to get some opinions - 

 

the Kanji clearly reads NORI MITSU - i was thinking most likely Kashu Norimitsu as there seem to be several blades with a similar niji-mei - But very different hamon and sugata - but that could be my inexperience.

the Hamon - its gunome with some choji  - seems to have medium and small- there is a lovely clear nioi line. Boshi is hard to take a photo of in this state of polish but seems to be turning back on its self.

Blade has obviously gone throughout surige

some file marks/yasurime can be seen though corrosion.

blade length 44cm - total length 54cm

 

have a look and would be great to hear your thoughts - 

 

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 4 by nihonto_1

[nihonto_1]

 

Acouple more images.

 

 

[Rivkin]

Unfortunately the way its written I suspect gimei.

The style is unmistakenly sue-Bizen, but there were shinto people (Tatara Nagayuki) who popularized it once again.

I would lean towards late Muromachi Bizen with gimei signature.

[nihonto_1]

17 minutes ago, Rivkin said:

Unfortunately the way its written I suspect gimei.

The style is unmistakenly sue-Bizen, but there were shinto people (Tatara Nagayuki) who popularized it once again.

I would lean towards late Muromachi Bizen with gimei signature.

Thanks  - Yes gimei is a very high probability, i have found a few kashu norimitsu mei that are very very similar, - having the elongated right hook on the Nori kanji- I shall have a read into Tatara Nagayuki as well - 

[Alex A]

Short, a possibility it was made from a longer sword. crossed my mind.

 

Maybe the picture but thats the vibe i am getting.

[klee]

Looks like there is fumbari in the pic but the nakago angle does look a bit odd for sue bizen.

 

The mei also looks a bit crude which is also uncharacteristic of sue bizen. And I dont think any of the Norimitsu smiths did crab claw like this

 

It does look old however so I personally would lean towards a gimei Sukesada thats been faked

[nihonto_1]

33 minutes ago, klee said:

Looks like there is fumbari in the pic but the nakago angle does look a bit odd for sue bizen.

 

The mei also looks a bit crude which is also uncharacteristic of sue bizen. And I dont think any of the Norimitsu smiths did crab claw like this

 

It does look old however so I personally would lean towards a gimei Sukesada thats been faked

Hi, yes around the habaki the blade widens quote a bit, I think this blade has seen a few redesigns in it life.

[Rivkin]

Without looking into my books:

Kaga tends to have well defined, confident signatures, this one is a tad sloppy. 

But that's not the main argument - tall, distinctive groupings are late Bizen style which was seldom copied one to one. Kaga Norimitsu tends to have much more "midare" hamon where there are many very small togari and choji, but nioi-guchi also tends to be less defined. It can have a tall grouping, but those would be isolated and sort of by themselves, not part of repeating pattern.

[nihonto_1]

@Rivkin thank you, that's a whole load of info to process. I have been gathering mei images- hopefully will have a chance to do some overlays. But agreed and was also my first reaction is that kaga/kashu has a  different style of hamon.

Again thank you for taking the time.