Real Japanese Samurai Sword?

[Octo2k]

+its not only 1.2kg as iaito are..

its more heavy, idk the excat weight of it

[davel]

2 hours ago, Rawa said:

Fresh Chinese. Bohi, mekugi ana, writing. Fresh batch of laito. It isn't sharp I suppose.

Not sure because +30yr ago there wasn't much available on the Chinese market and they definitely couldn't make such a nicely shaped tsuka and uniform diamonds/maki as on this piece. Most still can't today  

 

 

 

[Jussi Ekholm]

I believe these are the fittings that are on your sword

 

Tsuba: https://www.seidoshop.com/products/minosaka-tsuba-washi-tm001

Menuki: https://www.seidoshop.com/products/minosaka-menuki-kuromon-m013

Fuchi & Kashira: https://www.seidoshop.com/products/minosaka-fuchi-kashira-higo-karakusa-fkm105

 

I would assume it is an iaito, and possibly made by Minosaka brand. I think many places sell these, for example Tozando, Seidoshop etc. You can see Tozando Higo Koshirae iaito has these same fittings but different tsuba: https://tozandoshop.com/collections/minosaka-iaito/products/minosaka-higo-koshirae-iaito however for long time it has been possible to customize iaito, so you can see the selectable basic tsuba options have the Eagle tsuba as 1st one in options.

 

Also when you showed the 2nd nakago picture on the side without markings to me that looks like the iaito nakago I have personally seen. Unfortunately I haven't really been checking martial arts equipment for last 10 years or so as that is not my thing.

[Brian]

It is 100% not an antique and is modern made. That means it could easily be 30-40 years old...but waaaay newer than WW2. Not traditionally made. As Jussi said, a "modern" Iaito, even if it was 40 years ago. Zero chance it's a fighting sword made for the war or earlier.

[Kantaro]

Hi Jens, Looks like a Iaidō (居合道) blade to me.

It should not be magnetic!

Done the test with a magnet?

 

Kind regards.

[Octo2k]

i did not do the magnetic test yet.. thats my next step. 

thank u guys sooo much for helping me! i really appreciate it.. insane community here <3 

[Octo2k]

@Jussi Ekholm thanks alot for the links! 

it hurts to face the truth, i see xD but thanks.. 

[Octo2k]

@Jussi Ekholm

what would u say, is the value +- around my sword? 

[Octo2k]

@davel thanks aswell... ooof thats what i think aswell.. but somehow 3 parts on my sword are available in the shop he linked ;/ xD

[Rawa]

1 hour ago, Octo2k said:

@Jussi Ekholm

what would u say, is the value +- around my sword? 

He already linked new for 715$. But this short bohi and second unused hole for mekugi? Could blade itself be swapped into this mounting? Is it normal to see 2 mekugi ana with only one visible while mounted? Site shows example of normal full length bohi.

Edited October 17 by Rawa

[davel]

8 hours ago, Octo2k said:

@davel thanks aswell... ooof thats what i think aswell.. but somehow 3 parts on my sword are available in the shop he linked ;/ xD

 

Yes because @Jussi Ekholm is spot on   Some of these iaito were/are pretty heavy and people over here used to sharpen it themselves on a grinder.

[Guest When Necessary]

Another clear indication that it is an iaito is the Japanese length - '2.45' - written in pen on the nakago.

[2devnul]

Hi,

 

If it is steel (suppose to be sharp and done cutting) then maybe it is replica forged outside of Japan (not necessary China) in Japanese Iaito Koshirae? 

@Octo2k Hamon/Hada close-up pictures please?

 

I've seen pretty nice high carbon steel replica blades, with real Hamon (no Hada, as blade wasn't folded since there was no need for that) done by Polish smith 20 years ago. This blade might be something similar, equipped in 'proper' Koshirae.  

 

PS. On second look, Saya seems wrong. Kurigata doesn't look to be horn and Shitodome looks like gold-painted plastic/cheap alloy. Maybe someone bought a decent Iaito Tsuka+Tsuba and put it on the blade. That will also explain unused Mekugi-Ana. Bohi is odd (the point where it starts) ... even for alloy Iaito. 

 

Edited November 4 by 2devnul