Mikaveli Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 From a Facebook listing - caught my eye but don't think it's a genuine signature... ...too cheap and unpapered, obviously: Here's the suspect mei along with two papered ones, let's see if your appraisal matches mine: Quote
Alex A Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 Id start with the blade itself, hamon, hada etc etc Quote
Mikaveli Posted December 7, 2023 Author Report Posted December 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, Alex A said: Id start with the blade itself, hamon, hada etc etc The blade itself looks quite tired / out of polish - so it's difficult (for me at least) to tell. I kinda interpreted it as another red flag, obfuscating the quality of the blade. The seller knows how much a genuine blade could sell for, but won't get it polished / sent to shinsa (citing current finances). Plausible, true - but another red flag to me. 1 Quote
Alex A Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 Aye, in that situation you have to assume its gimei Even if the mei was a good match, perhaps some faker did a good job. Quote
Jacques Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 There are two generations of Kunimichi. 1 Quote
Mikaveli Posted December 11, 2023 Author Report Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Jacques D. said: There are two generations of Kunimichi. Potentially - that'd certainly explain the differences in signature and workmanship. In Sesko's index, he states that some sources list two generations, because of the long period of output (Genna-Kanbun) - but I don't know enough to confirm or deny this. Quote
sugopomedoro Posted December 14, 2023 Report Posted December 14, 2023 If I’m not mistaken that post has been updated as some collectors and dealers as well as members of the uk society have given it a thumbs up. I don’t think the seller will let it go now pending a final inspection by the Japanese. Quote
Mikaveli Posted December 15, 2023 Author Report Posted December 15, 2023 10 hours ago, sugopomedoro said: If I’m not mistaken that post has been updated as some collectors and dealers as well as members of the uk society have given it a thumbs up. I don’t think the seller will let it go now pending a final inspection by the Japanese. I'll be interested to see the outcome. I do think the mei is different - whether it's a second generation, or just a variation I have no comparison to. Looks like the nakago has been cleaned at the least? It's quite bright in that area. Quote
sugopomedoro Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Mikaveli said: I'll be interested to see the outcome. I do think the mei is different - whether it's a second generation, or just a variation I have no comparison to. Looks like the nakago has been cleaned at the least? It's quite bright in that area. I don’t think the Polish is that bad I saw a comment by Yakiba , and he almost did 180° turnaround on it, when he realised that it had been appraised in hand by a polisher. Mei wise look at this and compare. It’s beginning to peak my interest. Mei looks good comparable to this 1 Quote
sugopomedoro Posted January 1, 2024 Report Posted January 1, 2024 I spoke to the seller today and the Mei has been appraised as genuine in Japan by photos. Perhaps the title of this thread needs to be changed 😂 now that it’s been appraised he is no longer selling and will send for shinsa. Quote
2devnul Posted January 3, 2024 Report Posted January 3, 2024 "Mei has been appraised as genuine in Japan by photos" Hi, how can you do that? I mean, check via email/photos? Quote
Mikaveli Posted January 3, 2024 Author Report Posted January 3, 2024 1 hour ago, 2devnul said: "Mei has been appraised as genuine in Japan by photos" Hi, how can you do that? I mean, check via email/photos? Even then, by who? Anonymous t'interweb appraisals aren't something I'd rely upon. If it turns up with an NBTHK kanteisho, I'll accept it. 👍 Quote
Alex A Posted January 3, 2024 Report Posted January 3, 2024 You guys have obviously never heard of Meicheck.jp Or avoidagimei,com 3 Quote
cju777 Posted January 5, 2024 Report Posted January 5, 2024 On 12/11/2023 at 5:21 AM, Jacques D. said: There are two generations of Kunimichi. A lot of the literature mentions that especially some of the older books, but I do want to note in some of the Japanese journals and such there is debate if there was actually two generations or just his long working life and variety. I gathered a lot of info when my Kunimichi was papered. Once I dig it out I can share a thread on it. I’m not convinced on the one vs. two generations myself, until I read up again. But a good academic discussion for sure. 1 Quote
sugopomedoro Posted January 14, 2024 Report Posted January 14, 2024 On 1/3/2024 at 4:15 PM, Mikaveli said: Even then, by who? Anonymous t'interweb appraisals aren't something I'd rely upon. If it turns up with an NBTHK kanteisho, I'll accept it. 👍 Agreed but I don’t use names lightly. Keep an eye open this one is going for shinsa. Quote
sugopomedoro Posted January 14, 2024 Report Posted January 14, 2024 On 1/5/2024 at 10:24 PM, cju777 said: My papered example- Beautiful thanks for sharing Quote
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