Blazeaglory Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 Found these yesterday. Had a price tag of 500$, didn't sell. Today they're re-listed as an auction. Considering 2019 is the year of the pig/boar, these would make a nice addition for a current/future Koshirae build or as an addition to a collection. Only problem is... are they real? Plated? New posing as old? Anyways, I thought it would be interesting to see how much they sell for as the seller states they're "solid gold". I'm not claiming they're real gold or authentic, nor am I interested or searched this sellers other items, I'm only sharing the link for anyone who's interested or wants to critique. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F133006621114 1 Quote
Frank B Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 I'd personally stay away, the work is very rough. Furthermore, the backs are filled indicating a very thin plate to support them. 4 Quote
TETSUGENDO Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 I agree with Frank, could be die stamped, or thin castings, the one eye appears obviously 'colored' and not inlayed.....they look bogus to me, certainly nothing I'd consider buying. -S- 3 Quote
Frank B Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 Dwain, an easy reference is Darcy's site. Look at his fittings page, there is loads of information to learn. In addition to great pictures. I promise you won't be tempted by works like these boars after. Quote
Blazeaglory Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Posted March 30, 2019 No, I have zero interest in these boars. Only posted because I thought it was funny how my tanto thread got so "popular" in regards to gold Menuki. I found these on accident and thought we could get some good discussion out of it. But fear not! I don't find these attractive, detailed or intriguing. I agree that they're really thin and lack any kind of detail. But maybe someone else might, not I..lol Thanks for Darcys info! I don't know if I've looked at his website or not but I'm constantly online and in the last few months have probably examined (online) quite a few Menuki. Would u happen to have a link? 1 Quote
Blazeaglory Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Posted March 30, 2019 I agree with Frank, could be die stamped, or thin castings, the one eye appears obviously 'colored' and not inlayed.....they look bogus to me, certainly nothing I'd consider buying. -S- I think you're right. From the back they appear stamped 1 Quote
Blazeaglory Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Posted March 30, 2019 Glad you're learning Haha thanks. Honestly from now to a year ago, I can't believe some things I thought we're attractive. Quote
TheGermanBastard Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 Well, this seller has some lets say goofy stuff. I think that those Menuki are not of good quality. 1 Quote
Frank B Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 No, I have zero interest in these boars. Only posted because I thought it was funny how my tanto thread got so "popular" in regards to gold Menuki. I found these on accident and thought we could get some good discussion out of it. But fear not! I don't find these attractive, detailed or intriguing. I agree that they're really thin and lack any kind of detail. But maybe someone else might, not I..lol Thanks for Darcys info! I don't know if I've looked at his website or not but I'm constantly online and in the last few months have probably examined (online) quite a few Menuki. Would u happen to have a link? Yuhindo Quote
Blazeaglory Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Posted March 30, 2019 Ahhh yes, I know that website well. He has allot of great, early Nihonto and high end fittings. Well to keep the theme of the thread going, here's another auction. This one is a bit better but I'm 50/50 on the F/K and Menuki being gold. Menuki look brass and F/K the same, although seller does list the F/K as "silver with gold plate" while the Menuki are listed as gold. The saya and tsuba are really nice tho. It has "whales beard" tsuka wrap. Baelleen(so?) I think its called? Over all this one is decent IMO. It houses a nice Edo tanto https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F133006643530 Quote
Frank B Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 Dwain, I see nothing of quality in those fittings. I truly implore you to look at the reference I posted and compare them. The difference is night and day. 2 Quote
Blazeaglory Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Posted March 30, 2019 Dwain, I see nothing of quality in those fittings. I truly implore you to look at the reference I posted and compare them. The difference is night and day.yeah I love Yuhindo and wish i could afford many of the items there. That's EXTREMELY high end tho IMO. Respectfully, for future reference, just because I post something doesn't mean I'm interested or think it's quality. I'm making conversation. I just wanted to throw that out there as a disclaimer ???????? The only thing I like in this listing is the tsuba and saya but I'm not interested in buying it. I like how the maker incorporated the gold leaf flakes into the lacquer. Also, the dragon tsuba reminds me almost of the old Viking or Saxon style. But I agree, other than that, I don't see much there. I'm also kinda annoyed that so many sellers misrepresent their items, giving other sellers a bad name. Whether this seller is or isn't, I wanted to see if others thought he/she was. The Menuki look bronze. Quote
Frank B Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 I would not be surprised if the tsuba was a modern cast <50 years old Furthermore, the menuki look cast as well. In my opinion you will learn much more from genuine high quality items than junk. 1 Quote
Blazeaglory Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Posted March 30, 2019 I would not be surprised if the tsuba was a modern cast <50 years oldInteresting, that's the kind of info I need! I'll look closer then. I was assuming it was late Edo maybe but I agree, it does look kinda new, or in really great condition. Maybe the maker added the gold leaf in the saya as a way to trick buyers into thinking everything else was gold as well? It's a stretch but the longer I hang around NMB, the more I'm becoming a sceptic. Which is good i guess Quote
Frank B Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 Interesting, that's the kind of info I need! I'll look closer then. I was assuming it was late Edo maybe but I agree, it does look kinda new, or in really great condition. Like I said earlier, it is not worth looking at this tsuba. I would recommend you look at better examples. This thread has some great examples(http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/18592-show-us-your-high-class-tosogu/) Quote
Blazeaglory Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Posted March 30, 2019 Like I said earlier, it is not worth looking at this tsuba. I would recommend you look at better examples. This thread has some great examples(http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/18592-show-us-your-high-class-tosogu/)Nice link!You mean something like this? 2 Quote
Frank B Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 Yes, that's a great Kaga Goto tsuba. Quote
Blazeaglory Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Posted March 30, 2019 Yes, that's a great Kaga Goto tsuba. Honestly I cry sometimes after spending half an hour on Yuhindo. Quote
Frank B Posted March 30, 2019 Report Posted March 30, 2019 The difference in quality should be immediately apparent. 1 Quote
Blazeaglory Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Posted March 30, 2019 The difference in quality should be immediately apparent. You're right, it is. Some things scream quality but honestly sometimes I have to look at it for a while to come to any conclusions. But the longer I'm here, the better I get! So thanks for actually taking the time to reply! 1 Quote
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