Old Blade In Gunto Mounts,but How Old? Any Help,thanks :)

[The_ozzy_samurai]

hello Guys so i have this sword coming and im not exactly sure what era it is,im sure its much older then WW2 although its in WW2 mounts,my guess is and being no expert or claiming to be maybe shinto era? it looks to have been modified for mounting in WW2 as seen in images and now has a 62.6cm edge,any help or opinion's would be great on anything,Nobumasa,thank you

 

Julian

[SwordGuyJoe]

The sugata says kanbun but to me the hamon looks shinshinto. I looked for nobumasa and there are quite a few of them. Below are some smiths that signed nobumasa 信正. One possibility could be Nobumitsu 信三, though I can't find him. When you're looking for your guy, keep an eye on the nakago jiri. The one on your sword is very pronounced and likely a good kantei point to get you at least in the ballpark if not pin it down. Happy hunting (this is where collect gets fun).

 

Here is a likely subject if Shinto:

Nobumasa (信正), Enpō (延宝, 1673-1681), Settsu – „Dewa no Daijō Fujiwara Nobumasa“ (出羽大掾藤原信正)

 

Here is two candidates for shinshinto:

Nobumasa (信正), Keiō (慶応, 1865-1868), Owari – „Nobumasa“ (信正), first name „Tetsugorō“ (鉄五郎), according to transmission the

student of the 10th gen Owari Nobutaka (信高)

 

Nobumasa (信正), Bunsei (文政, 1818-1830), Echizen – „Echizen Maruoka-jū Nobumasa“ (越前丸岡住信正), civilian name „Kitaoka

Isojirō“ (北岡磯二郎)

 

These. Are quotes from Markus sesko's index. If you don't own it, you need to!

[The_ozzy_samurai]

Hello Joe,

 

Thank you very much for the excellent information,very much appreciated!! as 99% of my sword purchases are WW2 era smith's im fairly familiar and in safe grounds with those blades,i only buy type 98 or leather cover gunto combat swords,must be signed by someone good of course,old blades is all new to me i have only havd half a dozen at most,

 

From what i read in your comment it does look like Nobumitsu 信三  alot more then nobumasa kanji symbols, i was told nobumasa and was yet to confirm it?

 

I figured its straight,no cracks or splits,no visible damage to edge still retains a detailed hamon both sides all the way which i think looks nice enough,it must have been cared for over the years which to me i feel is a good sign that it was worth taking care of,i was pretty chuffed with my early morning purchase after winning auction last few seconds,even set my alarm for 3:30am as it was an over sea's purchase i sniped that Auction, Thank you

 

Julian

[mywei]

I think the way the strokes are placed, I'd be more inclined to think it is a stylised 'masa' imho

[ROKUJURO]

Julian,

as Joe had already pointed out, it is a good idea to look for a KAGA smith as the NAKAGO JIRI indicates a smith from this province.
 

[The_ozzy_samurai]

Julian,

 

as Joe had already pointed out, it is a good idea to look for a KAGA smith as the NAKAGO JIRI indicates a smith from this province.

 

 

Hey guys thanks for the feedback,i will have a look,as i said old blades are not really my thing it was a bit of impulse buy but who know when in the hand i may get attached to it,or i may just move it onto the next collector,i kinda have a rotating collection,i rarely have a sword for more then a few months,as you guy's know something else always pops that you have to get your mitt's on,and there is always one sword willing to sacrifice,but thank you

 

Julian

[ROKUJURO]

Julian,

buying/collecting swords is a bit like falling in love. The longer you stay with your partner, the more of her 'qualities' are revealed, and the stronger the bond!

I don't think this can happen with a machine made blade!

I wished I could afford to buy your blade! I already have a very old KAGA blade, and it would be a nice complement! 

[SwordGuyJoe]

The longer you stay with your partner, the more of her 'qualities' are revealed, and the stronger the bond!

 

 

Either that or you and your sword will be at each other's throats arguing about where you're going to eat dinner! I mean seriously, I've yelped, googled, hell even Bing'd and I've never once found the restaurant, "I don't know, but something good and hearty."

[The_ozzy_samurai]

Im hearing you guy's,i may decide i like it when im holding it, old blades are not really my thing as i rarely find them in WW2 mounts,but i like the fact of holding something that was handmade 100's of year's ago,cheer's

 

Julian