lotus Posted March 5, 2013 Report Posted March 5, 2013 Bit of an odd Tsuba as I cannot really locate one that is too similar. Perhaps a late model Tochibata? I only say this because rope rims were their mainstay? If not, what do you all think? First pic is tsuba in question. Second pic is a tsuba I found attributed to Tochibata. As close as I could find... Dimenstions : Thickness 4.7mm Width 63.5mm Height 67.3mm Quote
Soshin Posted March 6, 2013 Report Posted March 6, 2013 Hi Patrick R., Do you have other photographs of the tsuba? The one your posted looks like a very poor low resolution scan of the tsuba. To me it does not look like a tochibata tsuba. Yours truly, David Stiles Quote
lotus Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Posted March 6, 2013 Agreed, the pics look very grainy/noisy too me. Seller only had an omote/ura pic with the same issue. Unfortunately, that grain/noise makes it impossible to gauge the nature of the iron. Description stated it has a dark, rich brown patina. The design has a very modern feel to it, does it not? Seller described it as delicate and understated. Though I would not descibe the previous Tochibata tsubas I have seen that way... I will take more and better pics of it when it arrives. Quote
lotus Posted March 16, 2013 Author Report Posted March 16, 2013 Finally able to post some pics of my tsuba. The tsuba is small and light and the iron has a peculiar graininess to it which leads me to my first question. Based on the attached pics, would you say this tsuba is authentic? Quote
lotus Posted March 16, 2013 Author Report Posted March 16, 2013 From a previous NMB thread, someone posted a tochibata from a book with a very similar rim as mine. The rest of the design is more chunky than mine though. Quote
christianmalterre Posted March 16, 2013 Report Posted March 16, 2013 Patrick, honestly,i do not understand your´s question here. Yes-an Toshi,and yes authentic,...what else do you expect? It´s an nice exemplaire per se,typical stylism and in quite good estate of preservation... They did use Sandiron(like Kana for example)-this may be the reason about your´s question about "authentic" maybe?(Question?)... Me personally do not see any problems with this one... It´s very nice,lovely executed and still strong for Toshi...representative certainly...typic. "replete""full".... Keep it. Toshi are very rare to find! Christian Quote
christianmalterre Posted March 16, 2013 Report Posted March 16, 2013 have to add that your´s "Tsuba in question" is pure Muromachi/Momoyama stylism... Your´s second Tsuba posted does bear too much Kyo stylism-is fact around 100+ years younger... Do have an look into Kana and Owari stylism of Momoyama-and you will soon remark some very strong parallel taste... Buy you Eckhard Kremers "Sukashi Tsuba"!!!!! for further questions...feel free to P.M. me... Oh Boys! Christian Quote
lotus Posted March 18, 2013 Author Report Posted March 18, 2013 Christian - Thanks for the great info. And yes, the iron finish was what I was referring too. But now that I have looked at my Sasano books, I do see a similarity in the iron to the early pieces. Also, I see what you mean about the similarity of the style of those periods. They tended to be simpler in design, more airy, and sometimes harder to intepret. I had no idea it could be that old. I wonder how it would paper? Do they distinguish between the old versus newer Tochibata schools? Or would it paper just Tochibata I wonder? Definately a keeper. Do you know where I can purchase that Sukashi Tsuba book from? Thanks! Quote
christianmalterre Posted March 18, 2013 Report Posted March 18, 2013 here: http://www.klefisch.com/index.php?page_id=99 if anyways "unfruitful" do feel "just free "(LOL!)so to contact me. Very nice and good Tsuba! you do have here! Definitely keep it!-it´s very nice so to see,makes good to see,...none of all those meanwhile "Divorced"... Christian Quote
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