Swords

Not sure how I find the section for selling your swords? steve

Sorry am new to the forum will use the correct one next time Steve

My apologies Didn’t expect to get bad information after spending a good chunk of money! I probably should know better buying from people I don’t know This is the second sword I bought with issues The last sword I purchased from a known dealer ! I’m reluctant to buy any swords for a while since I’m not having much luck lately steve

I never said we were the only Nagamitsu enthusiast !!! at the time rich and I were the only ones at the time who were discussing Nagamitsu swords I would like to know how you Neil by only looking at pictures decided my sword was acid etched post war!! If any Nagamitsu sword owners or Nagamitsu sword enthusiast should any questions Neil has all your answers

Excellent information thanks Now I’m worried that as you said post war acid treatment is this the reason for that style hamon Any one else can tell of it is steve

that was easy like we didn’t already know it

Hi Bruce I owe you a bit of apologies I read again about the star stamp you were discussing and according to the acceptance stamp format the star stamping didn’t begin until 1943 But what about all the others prior as rich pointed out ! Did they use tamahagane before the army started in star stamping according to the inspection format examples star stamp W and X as indicated That also would explain no star stamp., We know the army bought up a lot of tamahagane allocated it to RJI swords that fit criteria specifications How ever if it’s true smiths got tamahagane from other venues that also would explain no star stamp ! Did they still have to follow the same standards per army specifications as the other RJI smiths who received army tamahagane? If Anyone can help connect the dots please jump in steve

Bruce That’s good news So let me repeat what you said Every RJT Sword submited that meet regulations and specifications described in this document was made of tamahagane I read the document and believe no star stamp was mentioned According to another document that was provided The army bought tamahagane and star stamp was proof that it was indeed tamahagane Thats where the confusion is why was the star stamp used on some RJT swords and not others? They also star stamped other items including a shovel which was kinda weird It seems we keep going around in circles about the star stamp !! Sorry don’t want to keep beating a dead horse! steve

Rich Thanks to Bruce From what I got from this document is the army bought tamahagane and gave it to RJT smith they decided but what about all the other RJT that didn’t get any was it because they sucked not sure? And there were smiths that got there own not from army so they may have access to tame just no star stamped Then again there’s no specific document that covers who what and where is what I call it still sketchy to me I would think that all RTJ smiths were deserving but again nothing but speculation So at least the star stamped was definitely tamahagane all the rest who knows with know star?? I’m guessing They probably got tamahagane from other sources just me from the army allocation So here we are again to many unknown All said great information and appreciated th efforts from others to help clear things up Even bulletproof shovels may have star stamped that we know of

Yes you’re correct I read about the Nagamitsu swords and as you said both Emura and Nagamitsu Were similar but not the same My main concern is why because it dosnt have a star stamp it wasn’t made with tamahagane then I heard maybe it was I read the description for the RJT smiths And I will say this again Unless I didn’t interpret it correctly it doesn’t say anything about it has to be star stamped to have used tamahagane! If you read the document that was provided it shows all the specifications I know they were registered smiths by the army and your right that they were allocated tamahagane And there lots of unknowns which makes it difficult to get correct information I do appreciate your feedback that’s why were here right to hear what others opinions steve

I have a question maybe you can help me with Dose s sword signed Emura Saku". verses Nagamitsu both have short signatures Are both similar in value ?

I hope you’re not trying to make me feel better as said there is much speculation The document dosnt say it has to have a star stamp to be made with tamahagane so what dose this mean I don’t know

If we haven’t found the answers from all the digging nobody will I guess unless you has a star stamped sword your sword won’t be worth as much money than one that dosnt

Which brings me back to the question are only star stamped RJT used tamahagane The document dosnt specifically this It doesn’t say they have to be star stamped unless I’m not reading it correctly steve

Maybe should have added Dose anyone have information about this smith other than I’m John Slough book steve

I don’t want to name him since I got this price however after and hopefully it looks good and if interested I will let you know steve

Actually the person I know have been told by known prominent sword persons Because this sword only needs scuffs and scratches and should bring out the hamon as well as the tiny nick If It’s not going to Japan maybe much more but he is a respected person steve

Good question don’t see any thing in this document saying it has to be star stamped maybe all RJT qualified smiths don’t need to be Any one have any thing they can add??

According to the documents that RJT qualified smith was allocated made tamahagane and didn’t mentioned star stamp unless I didn’t see it but will read it again I might have missed dont quote me I remember reading that some where steve

Wow Great information would make Nagamitsu 2 engraving 2 or 3 stroke naga fit this description ? If so it states some tamahagane was used and Are known for strength I didn’t tamahagane was used for these mass produced Nagamitsu swords I guess it so since they were made The RJT regulations thanks Steve

Hi everyone I’m selling this sword I need cash for another It seems nice Gentai WW2 era sword prices I see on eBay are between 2300 -2900 probably a little high but I don’t have many places to buy swords being a small collector Anyway Since I already have this sword I was thinking of getting it polished for 800.00 since I only paid 1300 for this sword I figured i would be into it at 2200 incld shipping The polish would take care of the scuffs scratches and tiny nick plus The sword it’s probably a decent smith since it was made early 1941 because of when the exibition was held It won 5th seat not great but better than nothing Any help would be appreciated Is it worth spending 800 ? The way I see it is I’m not spending a lot since after polish it should look super nice and cheaper than other swords I mentioned Steve

Sorry Bruce for taking so much time to answer you said RJT regulations simply states that "multi-folding" will be used.? Can I asked where you found that? Also just curious would a sword Signed Emura Saku verses Nagamitsu be a better sword or dose it matter ? steve

Rich Im guessing you and I are the only Nagamitsu sword enthusiast and no one knows the answer to this riddle? Maybe some one will have information steve

Would be nice if others would hav any information for these Nagamitsu swords ever thing else is discussion Any body hav any idea the forging process for each sword of how long it takes to make a sword how many people involved and steps from start to finish I know because many smiths used his signature just a ballpark? Steve

To each his some people collect bottles caps could be worse I have a question now sure if anyone knows but here it is Since these Nagamitsu swords were as follows A Rikugen Jumei Tosho (Army Commissioned Swordsmith) who made swords for the Osaka Rikugun Zoheisho (Osaka Army Arsenal) during WW2! Since they obviously were done by many different smiths ? How much time was used for each sword the forging process how many folds etc including the wrapping of handle and scabbard with hardware I know it’s difficult to assess but just curious if anyone has information ? steve