thanks chris i have had a look at sue-seki school in the past but will go back to the looking in the areas you have mentioned wakasa no kami ujifusa only used this title for a small time as he changed his smith name to ujifusa and later generations varied there names with ujifusa in it some where sue-seki smiths some were from mino-seki schools the other side of the blade has a slightly diffrent hamon i will take some pictures and add them it hasn't got as high a togari at the start off the hamon