konidzior Posted Monday at 12:40 PM Report Posted Monday at 12:40 PM (edited) Hi, I bought a katana in a shirasaya at a flea market and i have a hard time translating the mei. Can someone help me translate it? Edit: I'm sorry because i forgot that it has a serial number on the habaki Edited Monday at 01:13 PM by konidzior Quote
Lexvdjagt Posted Monday at 01:35 PM Report Posted Monday at 01:35 PM Hello Conrad, this sword is unfortunately a Chinese replica; the signature and habaki are not authentic. Greetings, Lex; 4 Quote
John C Posted Monday at 02:04 PM Report Posted Monday at 02:04 PM Konrad: Three tell-tale signs this is a reproduction: The "script" writing is not something usually done on swords; the "serial number" on the habaki was not done; and the "damascus" style pattern of the steel is not something the Japanese did. This is a western/Chinese imitation style. John C. 3 Quote
konidzior Posted Monday at 03:21 PM Author Report Posted Monday at 03:21 PM Thanks for the help. I'm disappointed with the information cus it's my first sword that I bought but could you please guide me on how to identify a sword in the future so I don't waste another 200$ on a Chinese copy? Quote
eternal_newbie Posted Monday at 04:09 PM Report Posted Monday at 04:09 PM 47 minutes ago, konidzior said: could you please guide me on how to identify a sword in the future so I don't waste another 200$ on a Chinese copy? A visual guide can be found here: https://www.jssus.org/nkp/fake_japanese_swords.html Further resources here: https://www.japaneseswordindex.com/realold.htm https://www.japaneseswordindex.com/repro.htm 1 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted Monday at 04:28 PM Report Posted Monday at 04:28 PM ....and you will not get a genuine hand-made Japanese sword for $ 200.--, so this may also be an indication. Quote
konidzior Posted Monday at 05:12 PM Author Report Posted Monday at 05:12 PM I need to ask just this one and the last question. Is it a good or a bad replica? Here are more pictures of the sword. Quote
Lexvdjagt Posted Monday at 05:31 PM Report Posted Monday at 05:31 PM 13 minutes ago, konidzior said: I need to ask just this one and the last question. Is it a good or a bad replica? Here are more pictures of the sword. This, unfortunately, is a very bad replica of a Japanese sword; the overall shape and actual style are completely off. Take a look around the forum, you will find plenty of examples of what Japanese swords should look like. 1 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted Monday at 06:03 PM Report Posted Monday at 06:03 PM 3 hours ago, konidzior said: ..... Is it a good or a bad replica?...... Konrad, it is a counterfeit, not a replica. Good replica are more difficult to identify; they are made close to the authentic items. This one above is very easy to spot in case you have seen a certain number of swords. It is all a matter of experience, as so often in life! 1 Quote
John C Posted Monday at 07:05 PM Report Posted Monday at 07:05 PM 1 hour ago, konidzior said: Is it a good or a bad Konrad: Just looking at this as a piece of steel, it is a hard question to answer. You have no idea what type of steel was used (i.e. 5160, 1095, 01 tool steel, etc.). The dark and light areas are done with an acid etch, which is also deceiving. You also have no idea how it was hardened (i.e., temperature). Does a magnet stick to it well? This means at least it is steel and not an alloy. Does it retain an edge when chopped into wood or something hard? Could mean the steel is good and the quench was successful. If not, it may be mild steel and cannot hold an edge. Regards, John C. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted Monday at 09:37 PM Report Posted Monday at 09:37 PM Lots of photos of fakes here: NMB Gallery: Fakes And several threads of fakes here: https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/forum/142-fake-Japanese-swords/ 1 Quote
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