Help on Authentication Papers

[Martin]

Hi all,

 

first of all a Happy New Year to all of you!

I have a question concerning authentication papers for Tosogu.

Is the attached paper an origami issued by the Nihon Tosogu Bijutsukan (NTB) / Sword Fittings Museum?

Examples of papers issued by them seem to look different to mine ( http://www.nihontokanjipages.com/tosogu_kanteisho.html ) :? . At least that´s what I found out so far.

Or are the papers attached an older version of the NTB Origami?

Any help on this would be highly appreciated.

 

I furthermore would like to understand the main facts of the content. So if you have some spare time (maybe while still digesting the New Years turkey :D) I´d be really grateful for your translation help!

 

cheers,

Martin

[Rich T]

Their papers look like this

 

 

Those papers belong to a small club in Japan, south of Tokyo somewhere. They are common on Yahoo and Ebay and that's about it. Not much weight are put into them I believe.

 

cheers

 

Rich

[Martin]

Hi Rich,

 

so this information ( http://www.ricecracker.com/japanese_swo ... apage2.htm ) is wrong :? ?

I do not understand Japanese but the first 5 Kanji on the far left side (that should inform about the issuing organization) look the same.

I was told, that these are Kanteisho (paper) from 'Tosougu Hakubutsukan' (Japanese Fittings Museum) - well respected for their papers on kodogu - and compatible to a Hozon NBTHK Paper. Furthermore, that the owners (brothers) of the museum had an argument and the museum had to close.

This museum was located in Sugamo, Tokyo. The Head Kanteika was Ikeda Suimatsu (now deceased), who wrote many books on the subject of swords and sword fittings.

 

Cheers,

Martin

[Bungo]

Martin,

to hell with the paper, your tsuba looks very good ( my opinion )

 

milt THe ronin

[Guido]

Martin, your papers are not issued by the Nihon Tosogu Bijutsukan (日本刀装具美術館) but by the Nihon Tosoguu Kenkyu kai (日本刀装具研究会). I've seen them occasionally, and heard that they are quite cheap (only Yen 5,000), but don't know anything else about this group.

[Guido]

so this information ( http://www.ricecracker.com/japanese_swo ... apage2.htm ) is wrong :? ?

Yes, it's wrong; I have no idea how Mike could have made that mistake, he usually knows his stuff. And it would be "Bijutsukan", not "Hakubutsukan", anyhow.

[Martin]

Hey Guido,

 

Mike gave his sincerest apologies for this mistake and made a very kind offer to make things right.

I am very pleased about him handling it this way.

 

cheers,

Martin

[Bungo]

Martin,

regarding your late gen. Akasaka tsuba ( that resembles my magical mystery tour one )...........

I found an identiccal one in Haynes catalog #4, lot 1187 but with kogai-ana plugged.

Same funny marks on the seppa dai !!

Haynes labelled it as " Later Kyo-sukashi work perhaps made by the Akasaka, circa 1800.

 

milt the ronin

[Bungo]

evidence that the strange marks could be some sort of " signature " or identifying marks ?