Need help identifying a uniform

[John C]

Hello:

I would appreciate any help you all (y'all) could provide in identifying these uniforms. The star pips on the collars (as well as the pocket pens) could indicate cadets, however the different caps are throwing me off. I'm also having some difficulty identifying the shoulder boards. The cap badge on the first looks similar to a police badge but I could not find an exact match.

Thank you,

John C.

[Jcstroud]

Dont know if this helps but here is one more to compare

[Bruce Pennington]

If you don't find any uniform experts, here at NMB, try Wehrmacht-awards.com Japanese Militaria forum.  They have a lot of uniform collectors over there.

 

Too bad the top photo doesn't have enough clarity on the zoom, the sword is either a police or navy patrolman sword, but it looks more police to me.  Might help in the ID of the uniform.

[John C]

53 minutes ago, Bruce Pennington said:

Too bad the top photo doesn't have enough clarity on the zoom,

I tried looking at the original under a loop, however I think it's as clear as it is going to get. The symbol on the backstrap looked vaguely like the standard sakura.

John C.

[Bruce Pennington]

36 minutes ago, John C said:

The symbol on the backstrap looked vaguely like the standard sakura.

Out of time, for now, but I do recall police swords with the police emblem on the 'ear' and sakura on the backstrap.  Either in Dawson or Plimpton.

[John C]

2 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said:

I do recall police swords with the police emblem on the 'ear' and sakura on the backstrap.

Bruce:

I think you nailed it...as usual! Found this pic of police officers wearing the same uniform from 1945/46. Even down to the pocket pens.

John C.