Tadayoshi - gimei for "THE TADAYOSHI" but over 20 smiths signed with the mei?

[drbvac]

I have had this blade for a while and knew it was gimei for the famous smith of this name but wonder if it could be one of his students or later generations or even an unrelated smith with the same name.

2 character mei is rare for certain but considering the hamon I think if intending to want to fake a TADAYOSHI they might have tried to copy one of his more carefully.  In any event it is a nice blade, probably shin-shinto and maybe I should just get the mei removed ?

[Alex A]

Could be a fun exercise this Brian, 

 

First impressions of the nakago remind me of Bizen

 

The Mei reminds me of tourist swords and im thinking its added later.

 

It dont look Shinshinto to me.

 

Lots of wear at Hamachi.

 

When i get time wouldnt mind a bash, as plenty on blade to have a look at.

 

Cheers

 

 

[Alex A]

Just took another look over this blade, think its Mino 

 

Without spending too long on it, think it maybe one of the schools from the early Edo

 

Jigane reminds me Sue Seki, Itame,  and wouldn't be surprised to find Masame towards the Mune. 

Nakago Ha-agari Kuri-Juri..............Used by Mino smiths

Yasurime Katte-Sagari ............."

Gunome mix .........."

Mekugi ana looks to be drilled.

 

Quick look at the Index and there were a few Tadayoshi  (non hizen)that signed a 2 character mei, one actually came from Mino, maybe worth looking more into it before having anything removed.

 

 

 

Cheers, 

 

 

[drbvac]

4 hours ago, Alex A said:

Just took another look over this blade, think its Mino 

 

Without spending too long on it, think it maybe one of the schools from the early Edo

 

Jigane reminds me Sue Seki, Itame,  and wouldn't be surprised to find Masame towards the Mune. 

Nakago Ha-agari Kuri-Juri..............Used by Mino smiths

Yasurime Katte-Sagari ............."

Gunome mix .........."

Mekugi ana looks to be drilled.

 

Quick look at the Index and there were a few Tadayoshi  (non hizen)that signed a 2 character mei, one actually came from Mino, maybe worth looking more into it before having anything removed.

 

 

 

Cheers, 

 

 

Thanks for your thoughts - will do 

[drbvac]

On 8/10/2022 at 4:54 PM, drbvac said:

Thanks for your thoughts - will do 

I checked some databases and although the Mino Tadayoshi did sign with two characters they are not the same - these are the same as the Hizen Tadayoshi and I think there are only two that sign with the same mei and are from Kaga province but can't find any actual signatures to compare - oh well - could be them I suppose but are from 1600's 

[Jacques]

On 8/9/2022 at 6:28 PM, Alex A said:

Could be a fun exercise this Brian, 

 

First impressions of the nakago remind me of Bizen

 

The Mei reminds me of tourist swords and im thinking its added later.

 

It dont look Shinshinto to me.

 

Lots of wear at Hamachi.

 

When i get time wouldnt mind a bash, as plenty on blade to have a look at.

 

Cheers

 

 

 

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