Looking to buy this beauty, please help.

[Freddie]

Hi guys,

 

Lovely piece of art,

I would love to know the sword smith and the NBTHK level.

 

The seller only published EDO and Takada school.

[Jussi Ekholm]

It is not a NBTHK attribution paper but from JTK. Seems like the attribution would be towards Sueyuki 豊州住藤原末行 - Hōshū jū Fujiwara Sueyuki. Period would be around Kan´ei (寛永) 1624-1644.

 

Do you have pictures of the item?

[Jacques]

Jussi is right about mei. Obscure swordsmith...

[Jussi Ekholm]

Just found the wakizashi as it was sold previously 2016 by Swedish Auction house, I would advice skipping that item as you can find much better items. https://auctionet.com/en/402582-sword-Japan-sueyuki-1624-kanei-1644

[Freddie]

5 hours ago, Jussi Ekholm said:

Just found the wakizashi as it was sold previously 2016 by Swedish Auction house, I would advice skipping that item as you can find much better items. https://auctionet.com/en/402582-sword-Japan-sueyuki-1624-kanei-1644

Kiitos Jussi!

 

Then I’ll pass this one.

Any good suggestions on we’re to find better once?

[Freddie]

5 hours ago, Jussi Ekholm said:

Just found the wakizashi as it was sold previously 2016 by Swedish Auction house, I would advice skipping that item as you can find much better items. https://auctionet.com/en/402582-sword-Japan-sueyuki-1624-kanei-1644

It is up for sale on the same site.

how can the value the sword from 1500 usd to 2500usd between two separate times?

 

https://auctionet.com/1573448-svard-Japan-tidigt-1600-tal

[DrSeeS357]

They really don't want you to see the blade in these auctions 

 

[Freddie]

8 hours ago, DrSeeS357 said:

They really don't want you to see the blade in these auctions 

 

 

True that!

[Jussi Ekholm]

I think a lot depends on with what budget you are shopping with. In general I would recommend somewhere around 2000 to 3000€ as that will get you a decent package. Sometimes you can find signed & dated wakizashi (even with koshirae) at least in decent polish and NBTHK Hozon for sub 2000€ [even though I would personally recommend skipping koshirae in that price range and invest as much as possible to the blade]. The problem is the majority of them will be in Japan (well not necessarily a problem), and of course good deals can go very fast. Unfortunately I cannot point out good deals in Europe at the moment as prices in here seem to be lot more than in Japan.

 

There are sometimes very good deals at this very site. I remember late last year there was signed and dated + papered Goami school wakizashi for very affordable amount of money. Of course quite obscure school etc. but someone got a good deal there.

 

As for the price of this current item. I think the 300€ that it started with was quite reasonable start. I might have thought somewhere around 500-600€'s so I can't really understand how it is close to 1500 now... So in auctions it depends a lot of who is making bids. And of course asking prices can fluctuate a lot, basic items are worth what someone is willing to pay for them, exquisite items can be above pricing.

 

For similar price than this auction piece is going for c.200k Yen, here is an offering that just popped up at Tōken Matsumoto: https://www.touken-matsumoto.jp/eng/product_details_e.php?prod_no=WA-0429

 

[Freddie]

2 hours ago, Jussi Ekholm said:

I think a lot depends on with what budget you are shopping with. In general I would recommend somewhere around 2000 to 3000€ as that will get you a decent package. Sometimes you can find signed & dated wakizashi (even with koshirae) at least in decent polish and NBTHK Hozon for sub 2000€ [even though I would personally recommend skipping koshirae in that price range and invest as much as possible to the blade]. The problem is the majority of them will be in Japan (well not necessarily a problem), and of course good deals can go very fast. Unfortunately I cannot point out good deals in Europe at the moment as prices in here seem to be lot more than in Japan.

 

There are sometimes very good deals at this very site. I remember late last year there was signed and dated + papered Goami school wakizashi for very affordable amount of money. Of course quite obscure school etc. but someone got a good deal there.

 

As for the price of this current item. I think the 300€ that it started with was quite reasonable start. I might have thought somewhere around 500-600€'s so I can't really understand how it is close to 1500 now... So in auctions it depends a lot of who is making bids. And of course asking prices can fluctuate a lot, basic items are worth what someone is willing to pay for them, exquisite items can be above pricing.

 

For similar price than this auction piece is going for c.200k Yen, here is an offering that just popped up at Tōken Matsumoto: https://www.touken-matsumoto.jp/eng/product_details_e.php?prod_no=WA-0429

 

Thank you so much Jussi my Scandinavia friend. :-) You are so generous in sharing your knowledge. Many thx.

 

I definitely look for blades in the 3000 range. And if the right blades is published even a little bit more.

[Freddie]

2 hours ago, Jussi Ekholm said:

I think a lot depends on with what budget you are shopping with. In general I would recommend somewhere around 2000 to 3000€ as that will get you a decent package. Sometimes you can find signed & dated wakizashi (even with koshirae) at least in decent polish and NBTHK Hozon for sub 2000€ [even though I would personally recommend skipping koshirae in that price range and invest as much as possible to the blade]. The problem is the majority of them will be in Japan (well not necessarily a problem), and of course good deals can go very fast. Unfortunately I cannot point out good deals in Europe at the moment as prices in here seem to be lot more than in Japan.

 

There are sometimes very good deals at this very site. I remember late last year there was signed and dated + papered Goami school wakizashi for very affordable amount of money. Of course quite obscure school etc. but someone got a good deal there.

 

As for the price of this current item. I think the 300€ that it started with was quite reasonable start. I might have thought somewhere around 500-600€'s so I can't really understand how it is close to 1500 now... So in auctions it depends a lot of who is making bids. And of course asking prices can fluctuate a lot, basic items are worth what someone is willing to pay for them, exquisite items can be above pricing.

 

For similar price than this auction piece is going for c.200k Yen, here is an offering that just popped up at Tōken Matsumoto: https://www.touken-matsumoto.jp/eng/product_details_e.php?prod_no=WA-0429

 

I got info about this koshirae that it will be sold on a Sweden auction. Any thoughts on it?

 

I know that the reservation price was not met the last time so now they will try again with a lower reservation price.

 

Is it something to spend 1000€ on?

It was valued to 2500€.