paulb Posted August 17, 2008 Report Posted August 17, 2008 Dear All I am trynig to do some work on the above mentioned smith(s). But have come up against what I think may be an error in Nihonto Koza (English translation) In the Cu-Aoe geaneology Tsunetsugu is not listed but Naotsugu is. when going through the illustrations there is no Naotsugu but a Tsunetsugu dated 1330. Could I ask those with access to the originals and other Japanese references if there is anything listed on Aoe Tsunetsugu working in the latter part of the Kamakura period? Many thanks for your help regards Paulb Quote
Jacques Posted August 17, 2008 Report Posted August 17, 2008 Hi, Aoe Tsunetsugu was a goban kaji, he worked around Jôgen (1207) According Fujishiro, Naotsugu works exist from Karyaku, Gentoku, Kenmu, Kôei and Kan'ô. Same thing on others sources. Tsunetsugu = Ko-Aoe, Naotsugu= Chu-Aoe. Edit, After further research it seems there are two Tsunetsugu, Toko taikan listed one in Jôgen (1207) and one in tenpuku (1233). Quote
paulb Posted August 17, 2008 Author Report Posted August 17, 2008 Thank you Jacques I reached the same point yesterday. Then I looked at koto vol3 Nihonto-Koza page 259 . Normally Koza produces a list of smiths and then illustrates them chronologically. In this case where I expected there to be a Naotsugu there was a Tsunetsugu dated 1330, so a different one to the two you mentioned. I was hoping some other references might say something different. Thank you for your help regards Paul Quote
Jacques Posted August 17, 2008 Report Posted August 17, 2008 hi, In this case where I expected there to be a Naotsugu there was a Tsunetsugu dated 1330, so a different one to the two you mentioned about the second Tsunetsugu (Tenpuku) Fujishiro says this below: TSUNETSUGU MASU NO SHÔ [GENTOKU 1329 BITCHÛ] CHÛKOTÔ JÔJÔSAKU He is the son of Masu no Shô Yukitsugu, and his era is said to be Tenpuku, but the moving back of the era is excessive. This is proved in the case of this smith due to the fact of many entries of nengo of Bunpô, Karyaku, Gentoku nado. His works are mostly tachi, tantô are musori, hamon is sugu ashi iri or saka-gokoro. (Ôwazamono) Signatures: BITCHÛ KUNI MASU NO SHÔ JÛNIN SAHYÔEI TSUNETSUGU TSUNETSUGU Plate II: TSUNETSUGU Quote
paulb Posted August 17, 2008 Author Report Posted August 17, 2008 Thank you Jacques I always forget to look in Fujishiro on my way to it now! Best Regards Paul Quote
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