Nbthk Papers Reissued, Realistically?

[Curran]

I'm looking at purchasing a tsuba now.  I believe the signature is authentic. The seller is someone I trust in Japan and says the owner of the tsuba bought from Ginza Choshuya a number of years ago and lost the NBTHK papers. It is currently unclear if they were Hozon or TH.

 

With tosogu [not swords, I still admit my journeyman need for papers there] I've reached that point where below Juyo level I don't much care about papers or no papers. Post 2014 shift in the fittings team, the papers are nice if they come with- but otherwise I trust my own opinion. That topic is a bit more touchy if the item is signed and a bigger name. In this case, papers for signed examples of bigger names becomes important IF I ever resell it. _***In this instance, it will influence the amount I am willing to pay the seller_***.

   

I have never faced this issue before. I've bought both mumei, only to have the previous owners find the papers and forward them. Most of the time he and I didn't know they existed. In more than one instance, I've forgotten I had papers on something I was offering out. For tosogu, papers are nice but usually not that necessary to me unless the item is something more desirable and more than 50% subject to forgery or fake signatures. This would be one of those instances.

 

If I can find an image of the papers, or reference the number on the papers, does the NBTHK ever reissue for H or TH?

I am guessing not. 

Surprisingly I couldn't find a prior thread on this that wasn't about the old white papers and green papers.

[DRDave]

Curran,

 

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[Curran]

Ahha...

That settles it rather definitively. Sorry that I had not seen that or known that before. I felt embarrassed asking the question.

 

Now that TH is required for Juyo, I wish they'd ease down how much it costs for TH.

Opinion:   Even with a strong $USD, as a  =<25% of the value it is too expensive for tsuba not worth $2500 or more.