Another find in Indonesia.

[Guest reinhard]

Jean,

As Mike Yeon has said: The second Kanji reads TADA with the lower part distorted by punch-marks. Although not very common, there were at least two smiths mentioned in the Meikan using this artist-name during KoTo period.

My apologies to Carlo and the others who mentioned the drilled mekugi-ana. It was the bottom one. Mea culpa.

[Jacques]

Hi,

 

Wich Tada?

 

祇 - 矩 - 兄 - 周 - 但 - 旦 - 忠 - 偵 - 田 - 土 - 督 - 妙 - 矢 - 亘 - 尹 -

 

I personally don't find one (it's true that i've old eyes :D) 　

 

I have also checked the Yoshitada smiths, i've found 2, one in Enpo -Tenna (oshigata) and one in Genroku; both use this kanji 忠

 

Edit,

 

There is a third Yoshitada in Showa era, a sword with the mei Hizen Kuni Yoshitada and dated from 1945 is extant.

[Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini]

My apologies to Carlo and the others who mentioned the drilled mekugi-ana. It was the bottom one. Mea culpa.

 

No need for apologies. Not yours culpa.

It has been poor quality picture's culpa...

[Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini]

Wich Tada? I personally don't find one

 

This : 忠 (7th of your list, from left "the western

reading" way).

[Jacques]

This : 忠 (7th of your list, from left "the western

reading" way).

 

[Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini]

Well, I *think* that Reinhard and Mike meant this one, but I'm not

sure. As I'm not sure it is the only possible reading of these remains.

Seems not a great calligraphy to me, anyway...

[Guest reinhard]

You're right Carlo,

 

This is the Kanji I meant. Thank you for making it clear for me. I tried to include it in my post, but the font system of my Mac was not accepted by the forum's software (Brian?). Anyway. I think we agree by now, that the signature is a gimei and it doesn't make much sense to investigate any further. What I was trying to bring into this thread is: Don't accept right answers for the wrong reasons. The outcome's always a mess.

 

and Jean,

 

The smiths named in the Meikan are:

1. a member of shodai Nagamitsu-den in Bizen, working around Showa era (1312-1316)

2. a smith working in Kii province around Daiei era (1521-1527)

but this is just for protocol and doesn't really matter anymore

[Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini]

Don't accept right answers for the wrong reasons.

 

A new good motto to remember for me and the perfect way to close this

matter.