terminus Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 Hi, Anyone know if this is a real Magoroku Kanemoto 2nd generation katana? any help would be genuinely appreciated since I'm thinking of buying it. Sorry for the unfocused pics, they are not mine. Quote
Derek Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 Tough to tell from those out-of-focus pictures, but my first thought is that the sanbonsugi is too regular for 2nd Kanemoto. Attached photo of a wakizashi with nbthk hozon to nidai Kanemoto for comparison. Quote
terminus Posted January 3, 2015 Author Report Posted January 3, 2015 Thanks for the reply! I actually thought the hamon was somewhat irregular/inconsistent which might be a good thing....but the Mei I find odd since it's one of those stamp meis. Quote
Derek Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 That's not a stamp. Search for "gakumei" here. It may be orikaeshimei, but the pictures are too fuzzy. A picture of a papered Nidai Kanemoto with gakumei: Quote
Brian Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 Mei doesn't look too badly done at all. But if we could say for sure, we would put shinsa out of business. If I had to make a call, I would say the "Moto" isn't fluently done as the example. But that isn't conclusive. Without papers, the advice is to buy it as though it is gimei and go from there. Looks to be in professional polish, and if so..one has to wonder why it had not been to shinsa in the past. Brian Quote
leo Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 Hi, even though the pictures are blurred it it obvious that it is an orikaeshi mei. Which Kanemoto it is supposed to be?(I guess the seller made some suggestion) 2nd Magoroku is 3rd Kanemoto, 1st Magoroku is 2nd Kanemoto. It looks a bit stamped because the chisel strokes are obscured by age which can happen. The hamon seems to be regular and irregular gunome which can be a Mino school feature. The tips of the gunome are round though, not pointed and there is not even a hint of sanbonsugi. All this is not too typical for Kanemoto. There are always exceptions, though. Orikaeshi mei with a great name are no guarantee of authenticity. There have been fakes as many people think a faker would not bother with the additional effort. More often, though, original gaku mei are inserted into other blades which seems not the case here. Nobody here will confirm the genuineness of a signature. As Brian said, this is up to a shinsa team. What can be done is to give an opinion or a recommendation. Best, Martin Quote
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