klee Posted December 12, 2025 Report Posted December 12, 2025 As a sue bizen lover , never seen anything like it come up anywhere https://www.aoijapan.com/katana:bizen-kuni-ju-osafune-yosazaemon-no-jo-sukesada-dated-august-1522-daiei-2-juyo-token-63rd-designation/ 3 Quote
Mushin Posted December 12, 2025 Report Posted December 12, 2025 Yup, and it's priced that way. I haven't translated the sayagaki myself, but if as Tsuruta says that Tanobe thinks the blade is considered one of Shodai Yosozaemon's best works, that is saying something. 1 Quote
Lewis B Posted December 12, 2025 Report Posted December 12, 2025 Gorgeous workmanship, and I don't consider myself typically an appreciator of Sue Bizen work. What I don't understand though is that Tanobe says the nakago is ubu but to my eye the last kanji is partially cut. Kiri nakagojiri isn't normal either. His tends to be ha agari kurijiri 2 Quote
klee Posted December 12, 2025 Author Report Posted December 12, 2025 I was thinking the same as well . The last character def looks cut. And wouldnt that disqualify from Juyo for muromachi blades ? Or would this be an exception due to name and quality Quote
Jussi Ekholm Posted December 12, 2025 Report Posted December 12, 2025 It is very nice sword. Sometimes it can be tricky what is seen as ubu nakago. NBTHK states also in Jūyō that nakago is ubu. In my understanding if machi is in original position the nakago end can be cut and sword is still seen as ubu. There are few extreme examples of this in naginata, where I believe the nakago is cut for 50cm and it is still seen as ubu. Also sword can still be ubu even though there is machiokuri. In these cases I would assume that nakago needs to be original form other than machiokuri. Otherwise it will just fall under suriage. 2 Quote
Lewis B Posted December 12, 2025 Report Posted December 12, 2025 Fascinating we know the exact age of the smith when the blade was made 500 years ago. 56 and likely near the peak of his sword making abilities. Quote
eternal_newbie Posted December 15, 2025 Report Posted December 15, 2025 On 12/13/2025 at 3:58 AM, klee said: As a sue bizen lover , never seen anything like it come up anywhere Must be something in the water, because here's another https://eirakudo.shop/648659 1 Quote
eternal_newbie Posted December 15, 2025 Report Posted December 15, 2025 Also, I was doing some research in the Wayback Machine and this reminded me of something I saw there recently that I thought you might enjoy: https://web.archive.org/web/20161025013333/http://nihonto.ca/yosozaemon-sukesada-3/ I was able to track down some images of it that are a higher resolution than what the WBM managed to archive: 1 Quote
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