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Is the caliber still 15 mm a little bit down into the barrel? Like 10 cm down. My extremely little experience have taught me teppos sometime expand in the muzzle. But I can be totally wrong!!

Thanks for fast answer! Yes, won that lot yesterday so will reach me early next year. The other two lots didnt attract me. Happy if that netsuke has that age anyhow!! Very curious on the both molds of course. Will certainly post closeups when in my hands.

Hi Piers! Out of the three small collections posted by me recently the one in first pic with molds included seemed most interesting. Here is a photo of that stuff from the backside. Guess closeup on the netsuke reveal its a "modern" production?

Is it possible that any of this three small "collections" include any real antique Japanese weapon related items?

Isnt it interesting that even after decades of collecting you still makes this mistakes? I do it in another field of collecting once and then. Only difference from before is that I now more like laughs at myself compared to the annoying felling that caught me before. Is it because of some sort of wisdom or purely because of growing old.......?

You are close to incredible!! Thanks so very much Piers and Uwe. Will gladly forward your information to my friend. I know that for the moment his teppo are 500 kilometers away from him so no more photos were at hand. Fantastic how you managed to solve the riddle out of this only poor photo. Once again thank you for your time and knowledge 🙏

A friend sent me this photo. He heard that I had joined this group and wanted me to ask if anyone could dechiffer. He isnt so much into internet...

Once again a big thank you! I dived into this collectors field with absolutely no knowledge. Guess that the collector this items came from during a period also lacked knowledge. That reflects the diversity in quality among my five first items. Really had a lot of fun with my little "picnic box" transformed to a 17th century powder flask!! When examined by me now so obvious!!!! This last item, when explained by you, is 100 % made out of......plastic!!!!!! But not recently. Guess 1960-70 plastic. A true souvenier item. Not as the more "falsification" produced powder box from the picnic water thing. Very much appreciate your gentle way to lead me forward. Remember when I bought a few netsuke from a local auction (of course chinese newly made tourist object) and asked about them on an esteemed internet forum. My mistake. ........ Next time similar items will emerge I am gonna be MUCH more prepared. Have some Japanese matchlock weapons to present. Hopefully real deal....but you never know.....

Its a cuty! Just 90 mm from tip to toe. Belongs to a very unusual pair of cased percussionpistols manufactured by a wellknown swedish gunmaker in Stockholm. In continental style but with a swedish touch. Extremely rare. Copper flasks in this style never produced in Sweden as I know it. I am a bit anglophile when it comes to muzzleloaders. British flintlock pistol from time 1780-1820 especially. Those kind of pistols I compete with.

Thank you again for your patience and your willingness to share your knowledge Piers. Here is my last object. Maybe Japanese, maybe not. Maybe gunpowder related, maybe not. Very lightweighted. Both sides the same. 7,5 cm diam. Here compared to prime flasks from Le Page, Paris and James Dixon & Sons, England.

Woow! Still Japanese!!! Good enough for me. Maybe I will change to a nicer but newly produced netsuke just for fun. Of course could be to much for hardcore netsuke collectors. I know how picky they can be......

Next up for challenge! Pretty sure a powder flask. But Japanese? Measures 12 cm in heigh, 10 cm wide at base and aprox. 6 cm thick.

Haha! Two powder flasks out of three items. And one Japanese!! Not that bad for a Japanese rookie collector..... Soon gonna expose one more flask.....

Next is 20 cm long with a coork plug. Covered with leather but dont know on what. Small rests of blackpowder inside so probably a powder flask. Any thoughts?

Thanks a lot for wonderful info! Well, I rarely wear my obi outside kyudo practice but I like the shape of the gunpowder flask regards. Unfortunately no ball in the bag....

Next is this bamboo container wirh a leather pouch attached. Still some blackpowder left inside. The plug also works to measure right amount for loading. Bamboo powderflask 34 cm long. Any info on this item welcomed!

Thanks Piers! Make sense. Yes the plugs is very much not the best and felt out of place. Then I have a neat picnic accessorie for future sunny summerdays!! Will shortly continue with next item from the same auction lot.

Won a handful of supposed gunpowder flasks at an auction as a part from a collection of different Japanese items. No muzzleloaded weapons at this auction. I am a beginner in this field so found this forum to lean on with hopefully answers on this flasks/boxes. Have been an active shooter with Japanese muzzleloaders since a while though. This kind of accessories almost never occure on auctions that I attend. On one picture western gunpowder and primer flasks for comparison. The box measures 11x8x4 cm.

I will create a new thread for the item and some more.....

Thanks a million times for that fast and informative answer! Thrilling!! Will create own posts on some other blackpowder containers in few days. And Alan, what a beautiful tanegashima. So nice with that bee wax pattern on the barrel. I am a bee keeper myself so my heart melted......

Hi Alan! Couldnt help notice the nice "butterfly" emblema on your barrel. Very similar to the emblema on a box that is supposed for blackpowder. Do you know anything about the meaning of this butterfly?