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While I never take the descriptions on Jauce seriously, I have a hard time distinguishing truly old nakago from those artificially aged. Are there any usual telltale markers of fake aging? and wouldn't a Showa 26 torokusho technically make it less likely?

https://www.jauce.com/auction/c1191432860 https://www.jauce.com/auction/u1193456293 some extra pictures I don't see ubu odachis for sale too often. This one has been sitting for over a week already... 97cm nagasa, chu-kissaki. 3.6cm torii-zori sori. pictures arent the greatest to look at the hamon and jihada My first bet would have been early-mid Muromachi but the secondary mekugi-ana I thought didn't appear until the Edo period. I wonder what members of this community would think All opinions are welcome as always!

Thanks Marcin for being much more eloquent in the description! Many of these points I didn't consider, but I'm afraid Kirill hit it on the head with the shill bidding. I hadn't considered that this could likely be all fake interest to hype up potential buyers, as is apparently common on YJP

I'm calling on to this forum's collective wisdom to see if I'm missing something in this listing that should make it more appealing than it seems https://www.jauce.com/auction/r1191622942 This tachi has a mei Amakuni (天國) with a supposed connection to Taira no Masakado (平将門持之). the only issues are that A) Masakado was from the 10th century while this sword has a pretty nanbokucho style sugata, which would be much later 2) There are Amakuni smiths from Bungo province in the 14th and 15th century and the legendary Amakuni from the 7th century, but the sword shape, kissaki and nakago patina don't really fit either groups. Surprisingly the auction is quite popular already despite these incongruities. Would it be more likely that it's a bungo amakuni sword that somebody just decided to associate with a famous general at some point in its life or would it simply be a gimei that's popular because it's got pretty fittings and a cool box? Thanks in advance for your opinions

thank you!

Hi all, I'm trying to translate this torokusho, especially the mei section, where the resolution is making it hard for me to identify the kanji. Hoping people here have a better eye than I do. Thank you in advance

https://www.jauce.com/auction/x1188750321 saw this listing come up yesterday and I’m having a hard time figuring out what type of ji-hada the blade has. the sugata would suggest Shinto and konuka, but the osuriage and aging of the nakago would suggest an age older than konuka hada. please let me know if I’m overthinking this and should just call it ko-itame thanks to all in advance

Hi everyone, I saw a gunto associated with an older, likely koto but out of polish, blade. It is accompanied by the torokushos (impressively early registration in showa 26, but also by some 1945 sword confiscation documentation and cloth writing that I am having a hard time translating, I am hoping somebody might be able to help. The blade itself is mumei and in horrible condition so of very limited help

Marcin, while the condition is rough as Jussi mentioned, I don't think this could have been retempered. I don't think NBTHK papers saiha blades unless they are for sure by a grandmaster and worth the conservation effort.

For those that are into Aoe school, this TH ko-aoe is going for auction right now. A little on the shorter side at 65cm nagasa but beautiful nonetheless https://www.jauce.com/auction/u1185858084 having passed TH in 2020, I am guessing the owner tried for juyo once or twice and failed, so he's unloading it

Thank you for the explanation Steve. I guess I'm wondering what the reliability and reputation of the organization is, whether they're known to egregiously inflate the attributions of the swords they are evaluating and how do they compare to the NBTHK/NTHK

I’ve never seen supposed juyo origami with that appearance, how likely is it to be legit?

Hi, I recently came across some unusual papers on a supposed shrine blade. I was hoping I could ask the group for help with translating them as google translate's abilities seemed overwhelmed Thanks a lot in advance

yeah the white paper was part of a single picture with the one underneath, I just didn't crop the picture before posting

Good morning all, I am hoping some of you might know more about some green kantei papers (although not NBTHK green papers) I have seen out there recently. I believe the group is called Nihon Bijutsu Token Club I have seen an old 2007 thread about them on the forum but not much information could be provided about their reputation and the validity of their attributions. Would anybody know more about them? much appreciated

Hi Ray, thanks for the quick response. I didn’t really consider it trying to pass as kamakura as an option! The blade just doesn’t For my own learning, in between Gotoba and Edo period, has the chrysanthemum been used at all?

Hi, I wanted to get people's feeling about a kiku/kiku ichi on this blade. I have mostly seen Kiku on Edo-period blades. The overall sugata of this 85cm blade, length, sori (2.5cm) all point me to an early Muromachi period, but I haven't seen many Kiku mon on blades of that period. Is it likely to have been added later, kind of as a gimei??

Thank you gents for the response, Lewis thanks for the article, I hadn't seen it before but very informative. Jussi your access to the book collections is always appreciated, thanks for taking the time and effort to check! As it was my first time seeing "Jubi" at auction I will admit I was a bit surprised, and as a result, naive

I don't think I've really seen this before on auction sites, but this is supposedly a JuBi Ko-Bizen Masatsune. For the members that have been here for far longer than I have and are far more knowledgeable, is this legit? How often are Jubi certificates faked? https://www.jauce.com/auction/q1183787086

Hi all, I'm trying to figure out how much consideration I should give to origami from Tokuno Kazuo, the author of the Toko Taikan. Recently, I have been seeing auctions where the only form of appraisal has been papers from Tokuno Kazuo. Given that some of these listings have rather audacious claims (e.g. this "fukuoka ichimonji" https://www.jauce.com/auction/b1183360371). I will admit that unlike NBTHK or NTHK organizations, I have not seen or been able to find much information about his appraisals. Is he reputed to be fairly accurate or prone to attribution inflation? are his origami often faked? I'll be thankful for anyone who has experience with his work.

Hi all, I was hoping I could bother the community here for help translating a hozon token. I thought it mentioned Masataka as the smith, but this is a name I have only seen used since the 19th century. it makes no sense to me that a blade from that time period would be suriage like this, cutting through some of the horimono. Has someone seen this before or can help make sense of the origami? Thank you all in advance

I think the same seller I initially mentioned came out recently with a surprising item, a Juyo Kanenaga tachi. https://www.jauce.com/auction/u1181923282 Now there's always a concern about the blade truly being the one mentioned in the papers vs a fake (see recent sadamune auction), but if it is a fake, I truly don't see it. maybe some minuscule difference in the boshi compared to the oshigata but that's it... wonder how high this one will go

Robert I'm kind of curious where you can find well made, old (kamakura/nanbo) for a few hundred bucks! I'd be honest, for that price, with a decent polish, that's unbeatable value even if only to be a study piece!

Hi Kirill, thanks for the explanation. How do you tell the blade are saiha on these pictures? is it from the large sori?