swartz06 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 Sword was brought back from WWII, having no luck translating any of it, could someone help? Have other pictures and accessories with sword if someone would be interested in translating. Looks like who ever owned the sword before WWII wanted it back with all the accessories. It has all kinds of info including address and other stuff like that. Thanks for your time. Quote
swartz06 Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Posted March 19, 2011 Here is the cloth that was attached to the sword. Quote
Grey Doffin Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 The signature on the sword is "Idzumi no Kami Kanesada". Grey Quote
Stephen Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 Older sword took to war, a lot of these Kanesada blades are gimei blades that is to say a big name was placed on the tang to bolster sales. The tag is a transportation tag, showing his home address and what railway station and train it was on. I cant see all of it but better eyes will prevail. Quote
swartz06 Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Posted March 19, 2011 Is there any way of telling how old it is? And are you saying that someone put a big name on the sword? Its been in the family since my grandfather brought it back from WWII. Anyone know of a translater who could read all of this near the western new york area? Quote
Stephen Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 gimei means forged signature like you signed a painting a Picasso, been doing it for centuries. Bigger the name the better the chance its gimei. would be nice to see pix of the blade for a better tell, as of now somewhere in 1600's? Quote
David Flynn Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 The cloth is just a surrender tag. Every officer who surrendered a sword attached one. The usually just have the chaps name, unit, rank so forth. Some have where he was from. Quote
k morita Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 Hi, The address on the cloth is an old address. Shonai town was incorporated into Miyakonojo city now. Quote
swartz06 Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Posted March 20, 2011 Last ones if anyone wants any other shots let me know. Thanks everyone for all the information. Quote
Stephen Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 Not all tags are surrender tags and this one is a transport tag. here is a bit about kanesada, for you to compair. http://www.users.on.net/~coxm/oshigata% ... %20k6.html a full shot of the blade out of fittings would be nice to see the nagasa of the blade. maybe pix's of the fittings close up...habaki looks well done. i think so far its a very nice blade. if the saya doe not get translated ill rotat the pix so the kanmji are right side up instead of sideways. Quote
swartz06 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Posted March 21, 2011 Need better ones let me know. Measures tip to tip 28 inches. Blade is 22 inches and needs polished. Does have some spots on the blade that are discolored. Quote
swartz06 Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Posted March 24, 2011 Anyone know what something like this would be worth? Quote
Grey Doffin Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 Hi, never did get a name for you, I think we can proceed figuring that this is gimei; no one spoke in favor of the signature and it seems very wrong for Kanesada. 28" tip to tip makes this wakizashi length, maybe 22" on the cutting edge. We know very little about the condition and possible flaws, so a guess at value is just that, a guess. I would think this would sell for at least $450 and probably not more than $800, unless you can find 2 knuckleheads on ebay who both think the signature is genuine and decide to duke it out. Anyone have a better idea? Grey Quote
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