Does anyone know what this is???

[Dakota]

Does anyone know about this blade?

[Brian]

Luis,

From what I can see, Chinese repro stuff.

It's not Japanese imho. Try and remove the handle (there seems to be a peg there) and post pics of the tang, but I bet it only reinforces what I said.

 

Brian

[Dakota]

Hi Brian,

 

I'm more than a little reluctant to take it apart. But, okay. Need time to think it through (removing the handle). Thanks.

 

Lu

[cabowen]

Don't mean to be contentious but I think this is indeed Japanese. Most likely a late Meiji export piece. The blade looks better than what is usually found in these though....Try to remove the peg and have a look at the nakago as suggested to solve the mystery....

[Brian]

Chris,

I have seen many of the Meiji "tourist" pieces, and had considered that, but what puts me off is the curve of that blade. In most of the Chinese fakes, they have that upswing that is totally wrong. At least most of the Meiji pieces had the blade shape right, but they seldom are short with an exaggerated curve upwards. Also that habaki...bad. The "hamon" could easily be etched on.

We'll know when we see the tang I am sure. It should be fairly easy. Remove the wooden peg, slide the blade out carefully forwards. If too tight, maybe they glued it in.

I would like to see an overall pic of the whole blade too, to see the shape. Can we get a pic of that?

 

Brian

[Dakota]

btw - I have different blades with different curves.

[Baka Gaijin]

Evening all,

 

I'm leaning towards something Toledo made.

 

http://www.swordsfromspain.com/Tanto_s/73.htm

 

Cheers

 

Malcolm

[Turbo storm]

The hamon looks acid etched.

[Dakota]

ERazer says:

 

I'm leaning towards something Toledo made.

 

Turbo Storm says:

 

The hamon looks acid etched.

 

I say, dream on.

 

Lu

[cabowen]

I have seen some small tanto with very similar shape in Japan....I could be wrong about this, of course, but would really like to see better photos and hope the op will take off the tsuka and post the results....

[Dakota]

Here's the tip.

[Turbo storm]

 

I say, dream on.

 

Lu

Then to put this issue to rest, take off the handle and the habaki, and show some pics of the tang.

[Jean]

I have already seen a Japanese blade with such a sori. It was a wakizashi.

[Dakota]

Then to put this issue to rest, take off the handle and the habaki, and show some pics of the tang.

 

If this happens to be an Emperor's dagger I'm not even thinking of what your saying. I don't have the expertise. Nor should it be shown this way. Does anyone disagree???

[Grey Doffin]

Yes.

Grey

[cabowen]

It is not, no matter what it may be, an "emperor's dagger". It is either a later 19th century export item or a Chinese copy from the 20th century. The only way to tell for certain is to remove the peg through the handle and take of the handle to see how the nakago (tang) is finished, and perhaps, signed by the maker. The handle is made to be removed for cleaning of the blade. If you are careful and don't do something dumb, like use a hammer, no harm should come from it....

[estcrh]

I see these types for sale in Japan a lot.

 

http://www.jauce.com/view2.php?seturl=h ... h148056291

 

[Dakota]

It was easier than I thought.

[Lee Bray]

Looks like Brian nailed it.

That nakago looks fake.

[cabowen]

I have seen some pretty crude export pieces but without seeing more and better pictures I would now tend to agree with Brian....

[Jean]

Me too

[Dakota]

I'll see if I can post better pictures.

[Dakota]

I'm going to have to work on my photography skills but here's a few more pictures.

[Marius]

Luis,

 

Check out this site:

http://www.jssus.org/nkp/fake_japanese_swords.html

[Dakota]

"who" says:

 

I dare say, we all disagree.

 

I beg to differ. Thanks gentlemen. I will keep it to myself for now. Keep looking at pictures.

[Justin Grant]

Dakota-

 

If you have convinced yourself that this is a rare and expensive "dagger", then I don't see why you posted your question.

 

You have some of the best and brightest minds in the business and they all agree that this is not a national treasure, and more than likely, not Japanese.

 

I get the feeling you wanted someone to support your opinion and since you did not get the answer you hoped for, you are sticking with your initial assumptions. I think once the reality hits that you don't have the next missing national treasure, you will then be in a position to start your journey. Until then, enjoy your purchase and I hope it brings you great joy.

 

Justin

[Dakota]

Is it because you're all blowhards?

[Turbo storm]

Is it because you're all blowhards?

Not all of us are, but if it makes you feel better, you can call me one.

[Ted Tenold]

Does anyone know what this is???

 

Yes, as a matter of fact we do know what it is.

 

 

 

It's not our task to confirm illusions of grandeur, nor help teach those who do not wish to learn. Best of Luck.

[drbvac]

Is old chinese junk - that is antique chinese junk = Junque?