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On 4/7/2018 at 2:36 PM, lonely panet said:

I had a Kyu gunto with a double stamping, only just noticed a second example

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Any idea what the kanji marks on the seppa are?

 

Rgds,

Corry

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On 9/20/2021 at 5:34 PM, Bruce Pennington said:

I don't see an anchor on your 6mm link.

 

Fixed. Arsenal Stamps., Page 15

 

I was right clicking on the three dots in the upper right corner of the post to create a link.  However, this would merely take one to the top of the page.  Apparently with the recent update in the forum software, one needs to right click on the posted date to create a direct link to the post.  The date is located directly to the right of the poster's name.

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1 hour ago, Kiipu said:

I was right clicking on the three dots in the upper right corner of the post to create a link.  However, this would merely take one to the top of the page.  Apparently with the recent update in the forum software, one needs to right click on the posted date to create a direct link to the post.  The date is located directly to the right of the poster's name.

Nope. Assuming pc, just click the 3 dots and choose "share"
There's your link.

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Got a collection going, now, of unknown stamps at the end of nakago.  No idea of their meaning, or why they are there - forge/shop logo? smith kao? polisher logo? etc.  Thought I would post the ones I have with the smith, when known.  If you see one you own, or know where to find it, I'm trying to get the smith name of the blade they were found on.  With that, I can do a search for each smith's blades to see if the mark recurs, or if they are one-off oddities.  Thanks to anyone who can help ID these:

Kuniyasu.thumb.jpg.23f3d0db00d87a13ac9be7edd9387458.jpg on Kuniyasu

 

 

Masahiro.jpg.84c3bccabe04a732f6213fdda60f1518.jpg on Masahiro

 

951f6388.jpg.251bee4a34fab15f713317a06f3d007c.jpg Unknown smith

 

20191202_183034.jpg.cee4cf347777850f341696575976b10d.jpg Unknown smith

 

Hachi.thumb.jpg.83102ffa54fae215b48711bb95905d97.jpg unknown smith

 

post-4420-0-46753100-1530796808.thumb.jpeg.c2c6f4318fced7ce19ab8e1686f1fc65.jpeg unknown smith

 

576742096_Weststamp.jpg.11f22e34b2cdf733df6cd5d2be02580f.jpg unknown smith

 

1120992660_YoshinaoZeroorLadybug.jpg.62dfb7c0df37fb4be2dda7ef1cbce22b.jpg on Yoshinao blade

 

1990552156_nakagojiristamp.jpg.31420590358a0a2ded7fde0ba7402588.jpg on 1943 Yoshichika blade

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1 hour ago, Corry said:

Here is mine from Showato smith Yoshichika Type 98.

 

Most likely the number 六三.  Check the fittings to see if they have a subassembly number that matches.

六三 = 63.

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15 hours ago, Stephen said:

Corry 

Is that on the Kanekaga? 

 

Stephen, Yes, Kanekage. The mark is upper left to the top Nakago hole. You can see it on the second pic down on the left on this link:  

 

 

 

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On 9/24/2021 at 8:00 AM, Kiipu said:

Check the fittings to see if they have a subassembly number that matches.

 

Kiipu,

 

Just checked the type 3 and there are no marks except on the Nakago. Nothing on the Seppas, hangar or other fittings.

 

Best Regards,

Corry

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Gareth,

The one on "top" is the Suya Shoten Company.  Great write-up on them by Nick Komiay - The Untold Story of Suya Shoten.

The bottom stamp - we used to say it was of the Toyokawa Navy Arsenal.  Recent work by @Kiipu may be pointing toward a Naval Acceptance Stamp, similar to the Showa stamp for the Army.  Your photo clearly eliminates any doubt as to it being a shop logo, as I have another guard with this anchor in sakura with another shop stamp.

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And on a seppa

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5 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said:

Gareth,

The one on "top" is the Suya Shoten Company.  Great write-up on them by Nick Komiay - The Untold Story of Suya Shoten.

The bottom stamp - we used to say it was of the Toyokawa Navy Arsenal.  Recent work by @Kiipu may be pointing toward a Naval Acceptance Stamp, similar to the Showa stamp for the Army.  Your photo clearly eliminates any doubt as to it being a shop logo, as I have another guard with this anchor in sakura with another shop stamp.

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And on a seppa

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The mark besides Naval Acceptance Stamp, One is from 中野商店,one is 松山由造‘s 2133848877_.thumb.png.1b37f613552a0ebbd98a9863e6161cde.png1779473659_.thumb.png.89d4989b31ba3ef037325699714c53b0.pngpost-470-0-34580400-1558788186_thumb.jpeg.c6c6daef9cf8c2e91aec76864bbe4849.jpegpost-3487-0-82293700-1505752676.thumb.jpg.ce83cfeca6aa56f34e05032e69b7ebc6.jpg.

 

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It is not unusual to see two logos on naval swords regardless of age.  What is unusual is that one of the logos is a constant, the cherry blossom with anchor inside.  I have kicked around the idea that it could be the mark of a reseller and not that of a manufacturer.  The reason for this is that the older army swords are marked just as often as the naval swords yet have only one logo or sometimes the same logo repeated twice, side by side.

 

I have also seen the same company logos appear on both army and naval swords.  Yet the naval swords have the additional cherry blossom & anchor logo.  It really is a bit of a mystery.

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On 7/24/2010 at 11:27 AM, Ted Tenold said:

These red kanji stamped on the fuchidai of the tsuka are important because it notes the work of a great tsukamakishi named Shukichi Yamaguchi, aka "Tsukahei".

 

I have identified the following kanji characters in red ink 陸軍X and in black ink 七四二 so far.  @BANGBANGSAN can you pitch in and help with the third kanji character in red?

陸軍? = army ?.

七四二 = 742.

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15 hours ago, Kiipu said:

 

I have identified the following kanji characters in red ink 陸軍X and in black ink 七四二 so far.  @BANGBANGSAN can you pitch in and help with the third kanji character in red?

陸軍? = army ?.

七四二 = 742.

The photo is too small,I can only make a guess-陸軍造?

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