Nicholas Posted December 2 Report Posted December 2 Hard to capture in a picture due to an older state of polish but could this be konuka hada? The sword in question is signed Hizen Kuni Omi Daijo Fujiwara Tadayoshi which would be the 4th generation Tadayoshi. I have reservations on the signature being correct but the sword seems to be well made. Quote
Nicholas Posted December 2 Author Report Posted December 2 Another photo. Different light angle. Quote
2devnul Posted December 5 Report Posted December 5 Hi, IMO it is not Konuka Hada. It reminds me Hada from my 3rd Tadayoshi. https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/45103-shinto-wakizashi-hizen-kuni-mutsu-kami-tadayoshi-please-comment/ There are opinions that sometimes with fancy Hamon (not Suguha) Hada wasn't 'that' typical Konuka. https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/53901-sandai-tadayoshi/#comment-566175 On 11/4/2025 at 11:01 PM, Sukaira said: So the jigane will actually be done slightly differently on blades that do not have suguha hamon. For Tadayoshi blades with suguha, the jigane will be done in a very luxurious way, while the blades with hamon like yours will be done in slightly lessor way, for whatever reason. Maybe to let the hamon take more of the attention. Quote
Nicholas Posted December 6 Author Report Posted December 6 In my opinion the hada on this sword is tighter grained or finer than the sword you posted. It looks similar in my opinion to a really tight ko-mokume. Quote
Brian Posted December 6 Report Posted December 6 I'd reach out to Roger Robertshaw, his opinion on this is highly regarded. @omidaijo Quote
Nicholas Posted December 6 Author Report Posted December 6 Thanks @Brian. I spoke to Roger many years ago about the signature on the sword. He was under the impression that it was a possible dai-mei by the 5th gen for the 4th gen Tadayoshi. 1 Quote
Robert S Posted Tuesday at 06:43 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 06:43 PM That old polish didn't even attempt to honour the actual hamon. I'm getting a right bee in my bonnet about this kind of treatment. Why on earth would a togishi do that? I know, off topic from the hada... sorry. Quote
Bazza Posted Tuesday at 09:17 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 09:17 PM Ahhhh, hadori vs sashikomi observation????? A vexed and long-standing bête noire of collectors... BaZZa. 1 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted Tuesday at 10:08 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 10:08 PM No, he did not mean that. The polish does not follow the HAMON, it is sloppy work. 1 Quote
Nicholas Posted Wednesday at 01:11 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 01:11 AM (edited) I’m assuming it’s a war time polish. Blade is in type 98 shin gunto koshirae. Hamon is chogi midare. Edited Wednesday at 01:12 AM by Nicholas Quote
ROKUJURO Posted Wednesday at 01:35 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 01:35 AM Nicholas, you probably meant CHOJI MIDARE. It is very difficult to show HADA in photos made at an angle. And if the polish does not expose the HADA very clearly (which usually needs high-end work), you will have problems to catch it in an image. 1 Quote
Nicholas Posted Wednesday at 02:44 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 02:44 AM 58 minutes ago, ROKUJURO said: you probably meant CHOJI MIDARE. I absolutely meant Choji midare. Sorry, typing too fast on my phone. Like I said earlier I believe the sword is in a war time polish that doesn’t help distinguishing the features of the sword. 1 Quote
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