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Is there any difference between bright green tokubetsu kicho NBTHK papers from the 70's and regular dark green tokubetsu kicho papers?  (An example from the 1980 US shinsa can be seen at https://www.nihontocraft.com/japanese_sword_papers.html#japanese_sword_8 in the "Tokubetsu Kicho Nintei-sho from the 1980 US Shinsa" section.

 

I doubt it means a lot, but I was just wondering since I have one.  In this case I know it's pretty good; Mumei, I have papers from NTHK, Suiken Fugunaga and NBTHK (1975, bright green).  Interestingly, NTHK and Fugunaga agree (55pts Hawley, 4.5M yen Toko, jo-saku); NBTHK to a similar smith (60 pts. 3.5M yen, jo-saku).   The difference doesn't bother me; all say it's really good, and it's mumei so it's open to opinion.   I agree with NTHK after chatting with Gordon Robson & Marcus Sesko about it.

 

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the general consensus is that they are now old opinions and may not be correct, and not very desirable,  take what you will from that.

but i have seen some blades be repapered due to distrust of the older papers and come back with the same result. The big concern is if its papers to a high  name,  then you might have to start looking hard as to what you are buying.

 

hence why there is a huge glut of outdated papered items leaving Japan. they might now something hahahaha.

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Likewise,  my experience is old papers, with a smith you'd pay in the thousands for, there's a very high likelihood of gimei.

Especially if still in Japan, as shinsha access is simplified.

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