dwmc Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Ohmura's "Military Swords of Imperial Japan" has an example of a Bluish Green type 98 Gunto saya among several of the more common colors. My questions is, out of all the years I've followed the NMB, I can't recall seeing even one of the Green Saya's. Was this color saya more of an anomaly, or was it simply a color rarely chosen ??? Does anyone have one of these green colored saya's? I would think that if anyone had an example, it would be Neil (IJASWORDS) from Australia. Thanks in advance. Dave M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Hi Dave do you have a photo of this colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmc Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, PNSSHOGUN said: Hi Dave do you have a photo of this colour? Hi John, This is the color I'm referring to. Dave M. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 In the photo it almost looks like polished & lacquered sharkskin, but difficult to tell with the resolution (common with the images on Ohmura). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmc Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, PNSSHOGUN said: In the photo it almost looks like polished & lacquered sharkskin, but difficult to tell with the resolution (common with the images on Ohmura). On high resolution, I see what your saying, it does appear possibly a shark skin. Do you ever recall a Type 98 gunto showing up on the board with this variation of saya ? I think this may be a rare Saya indeed ! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Sharkskin saya have definitely come up, but not in that colour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmc Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Hopefully, someone will own and provide a photo of Type 98 with the green color variation saya, and additonal information as to it's construction material. 6 minutes ago, PNSSHOGUN said: Sharkskin saya have definitely come up, but not in that colour. Yes, have seen many Sharkskin saya's, but agree, green would be an odd color. Thanks again, Dave M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmc Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Further research indicates green lacquer or paint over metal. Dave M. ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Those are often found on Type 94 and early Type 98, I think they are different from the other Saya you posted as they are a classic green without any blue tinge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Here’s one with a Mantetsu in it: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Here's a classic gloss green Saya: http://www.guntoartswords.com/010776.html 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmc Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said: Here’s one with a Mantetsu in it: Thanks Bruce, This is exactly the Saya color variation I was thinking of, perfect example ! The look of wwll era, age appropriate, excellent... You've established there are a least a few out there. Thanks again, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itomagoi Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Hey Dave, sry, I'm late, but this is my or better it was my Emura-to with green Saya as an example :-) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Here is my Mantetsu sword in its green sayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Butch said: my Mantetsu Do we have that one on file Gareth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Yes Bruce all on file … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmc Posted July 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 10 hours ago, Itomagoi said: Hey Dave, sry, I'm late, but this is my or better it was my Emura-to with green Saya as an example :-) No problem Peter, all input appreciated, it's becoming apparent to me there are even a few slight variations in what could be considered traditional "Gunto green" as John and Gareth have shown. After looking closer at Victor's Mantetsu saya, which Bruce shared, it appears to be a greenish paint possibly applied post war. Again, all input is greatly appreciated, however, yours appears to be the closest to the "Bluish Green" saya color variation displayed in Ohmura's Gunto Site, however, I'm not sure we've quite got a match yet. I'm beginning to suspect that very specific Bluish Green saya color variation is extemely rare, if not produced in any number at all, an anomaly indeed. Perhaps one will eventually show up! Thank you all for the effort, Dave M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 Here's one on a Masayuki, October 1941 Showa-stamped blade, posted by @NickC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Is there any reason for the green saya? Or was it just an optional color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Most of the colours vaguely fit within the colour pallete of fatigues. Beyond that it likely would simply be the officers taste. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmc Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 On 7/11/2022 at 8:54 PM, dwmc said: Further research indicates green lacquer or paint over metal. Dave M. ! Very rare green saya color variation. Appears WWll era. Close to the color shown on Ohmura's Gunto site. Sword is for sale on Ebay presently. Dave M. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmc Posted April 6 Author Report Share Posted April 6 Another excellent WWll Shingunto with rare green saya. Oki Kunisumi Okimitsu sword smith 1945. For sale presently on Jauce site. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmc Posted April 6 Author Report Share Posted April 6 Additional photo. This green color saya was apparently not that popular during the WWll years due to the rarity they show up. Even (Neil) from Australia doesn't own one to my knowledge.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EdWolf Posted April 6 Report Share Posted April 6 I have one with a green saya. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmc Posted April 6 Author Report Share Posted April 6 4 hours ago, EdWolf said: I have one with a green saya. Excellent Ed...very rare indeed! You don't often see your green saya variation in collections. However, one does show up occasionally! Thanks for reply! Best regards, Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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