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twoscoops Posted May 28 Author Report Share Posted May 28 I have had it apart but do not think I re-assembled it correctly. There are Japanese markings (almost like a red paint pen) on the tang but no imprinted markings that I could see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz S Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 I'm far from an expert but it looks like a a very legitimate kai gunto. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Doffin Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 Hi Thomas, Yes; a legitimate sword and it looks like you have it reassembled correctly (unless the seppa (washers) are on in the wrong order, in which case I'm sure someone who knows these swords better than I do will point out). The red paint are likely numbers to help keep the parts together and they will tell you nothing about the sword's history. Grey 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoscoops Posted May 28 Author Report Share Posted May 28 I was told the previous owner brought it back from WW2. I was valuing the sword around $600. Does this sound right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 3 hours ago, twoscoops said: $600. Does this sound right? More like $1200 to $1800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROKUJURO Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 Thomas, please let us see sharp photos of the NAKAGO (= tang) without HABAKI, always oriented tip-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 Thomas, I finally had some time to look this over. I'm not entirely sure what you have here. The majority of it seems to be a quality, upgraded kaigunto - sharkskin same', fat gold seppa, lacquered rayskin saya. Yet the fuchi is Army (green arrow) and the koiguchi (blue arrow) is Navy. Plus, the tassel is army. The inner black seppa (closest to the tsuba) on both sides don't fit well. This kaigunto has either been re-fitted by a collector (common with some gunto that come to the collectors in bad shape, or missing parts) or it was a late-war job using available parts. There has been much discussion over the decades of the Navy forces that fought on land along side Army and the swords they carried. It is certainly possible this one was one of those. The fuchi fits so well, and the scabbard latch goes through all the seppa and tsuba, that I want to say this was made this way. It's an odd character, for sure! Pricing these days is all over the place, but I wouldn't sell it under $2,000. Before COVID, they were selling for $2,400. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoscoops Posted May 28 Author Report Share Posted May 28 The seppa defiantly fit better before I took it apart and re-assembled it. The only thing I changed was the bamboo pin. It had a bolt/square nut thru it. I will work on more pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lambo35 Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 Shouldn't the gold thick seppa lie against the two large di-seppa then the black seppa, and lastly the two thin seppa ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoscoops Posted June 8 Author Report Share Posted June 8 My next question, where should I look if I wanted to sell it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario_Archaeology Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 you can put it up for sale here on the forum, or facebook groups, ebay is an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisW Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 You're most likely to sell it for a good price here or a facebook group for swords; also people will be more likely to appreciate it properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoscoops Posted June 8 Author Report Share Posted June 8 1 hour ago, ChrisW said: You're most likely to sell it for a good price here or a facebook group for swords; also people will be more likely to appreciate it properly. Thank you ill try posting it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoscoops Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 On 6/8/2022 at 5:45 PM, ChrisW said: You're most likely to sell it for a good price here or a facebook group for swords; also people will be more likely to appreciate it properly. Thank you ill try posting it here. I believe I am ready to sell. Can one of you guys advise me on how to post it up, I do not wish to be misleading in any way and I am not knowledgeable enough to list it properly. Also, as I am a new seller, do you recommend going thru a moderator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Just go into the For Sale section, create a new post and list it with a price, and pics. Very easy, the same as posting it as you did here. Remember you can post multiple pics in one post/reply, just keep adding them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoscoops Posted June 23 Author Report Share Posted June 23 Thank you all for your time and advice. I am going to post it in the for sale section but could someone please help me with the description for the listing. I want to list it as accurately as possible. Thank you all again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 That's a tough ask, Thomas! It could be as simple as: "Type 97 Kaigunto for sale; Description: As is" More elaborate description: "As brought back by original owner from the war. Mumei, undated blade. Upgraded fittings with sharkskin saya. Company grade tassel is Army, as is the fuchi. Whether original or not, unknown." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinalexander Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Bruce can you help me sell my car? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, robinalexander said: Bruce can you help me sell my car? Yes, but are all the parts original!?!? Ha! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 The number on the tang looks to be 258 (二五八). If the seppa or tsuba have the same number on them, it could be a selling point as it indicates these parts were originally assembled together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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