ken kata Posted August 13, 2021 Report Posted August 13, 2021 Hello Forum/Guys.. I was looking at a Shimada Yoshisuke Wakizashi that I had. There are two "additional situations" , I came across. First, is an second / additional "Origami" that I might have forgotten to upload on the original post about this Shimada Blade. Jussi was helping me , but, did not have a chance to see the 2nd "Origami" paper. ( Thanks for that Jussi ) 1. If you have attribution to Gisuke it means Shimada Yoshisuke. 1st gen (Gisuke) would be in the middle of 1400's. There are 9 gens coming up until mid 1700's. I'd guess a long hira-zukuri wakizashi like that one could be from 1500's. 2) For the Shimada Yoshisuke wakizashi, the papers give Tenshō as the era. That would point it at the latter part of 1500's. As the sword received attribution to Shimada Yoshisuke rather than just plain Shimada I'd think it's good quality Shimada work. Below are the 1st and 2nd 'Origami". Quote
ken kata Posted August 13, 2021 Author Report Posted August 13, 2021 Shimada Yoshisuki SHOSHU Tradition SURUGA Province Page 208 and 213 in the Blue Book. Had KOSHO ( 1455-1457) Gisuki TENSHO (1573-1592) YOS1677 YOS1600 YOS1671 YOS1670 ENBUN ( 1356-1361) Quote
ken kata Posted August 13, 2021 Author Report Posted August 13, 2021 The Blade Sori and Nakago : About the Nakago.. The second situation i have is.. Is the Nakago cracked/welded on? I saw this the other night Quote
Shugyosha Posted August 13, 2021 Report Posted August 13, 2021 The nakago is fine - it’s just a bit of wear from the habaki above the sabji giwa. The paper you’ve shown - isn’t it both sides of a NTHK paper? Attribution is below the details. Quote
Geraint Posted August 13, 2021 Report Posted August 13, 2021 Not to put words in your mouth John but did you mean wear from the tsuba above the habaki? Thanks for sharing Ken. All the best. 1 Quote
Shugyosha Posted August 13, 2021 Report Posted August 13, 2021 That would be it! Either way, I can’t see anything that would cause me concern. 1 1 Quote
ken kata Posted August 13, 2021 Author Report Posted August 13, 2021 Hello Gentlemen.. Thank you . John, I should have explained it better. Sorry. The up-loaded "Origami" are photos I took and are color printed copies of the originals. Now, I am also, not sure if it was on the same Origami Sheet . ( writing on both sides ). Since I started positing again, I have not been able to find my envelope with all my Nihonto Origami (s)... Guys, I forgot to ask/type in the question the 1st. part..... What does the second page say? Thanks for viewing.. Alton Quote
ken kata Posted August 13, 2021 Author Report Posted August 13, 2021 Habaki Copper. Could this be the Original? Blade is in Shirasaya.. Alton Quote
Shugyosha Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 Hi Alton, The paper says (columns right to left): Kanteisho - appraisal document One wakizashi I'm struggling with the first three kanji in this column but the final four read Shimada Yoshi (Gi) suke. Shoshin - genuine then the blade's dimensions Appraisal date Then all the usual standard blurb. So this confirms your understanding of the attribution and Jussi has confirmed the date (around Tensho) 1573 to 1592. 1 Quote
Jussi Ekholm Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 I think the first three are 傅駿州 - den Sunshū (Suruga province) and followed by Shimada Yoshisuke. NTHK tends to always use den in their attributions for mumei swords. 1 1 Quote
ken kata Posted August 14, 2021 Author Report Posted August 14, 2021 Hello and Good Morning from Hawaii.. John, Geraint and Jussi, > Thank you for posting Guys.. " NTHK tends to always use " den " in their attributions for mumei swords. " - Jussi Guys, I like these little bits of information ( Tidbits) that are told as you guys post/reply.. Thanks for the added/extra time that it takes to type in these details.. I was going to watch "Sekigahara" (DVD) this weekend. To think/imagine, that this Blade was made just before / around that time.. It's also makes you wonder.. Was this blade used ? Like, to hurt someone? Have a safe/ fun weekend all.. Alton > Dai Ichi Dai Mon Dai Kichi Quote
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