Help with this mei and school

[shakudo]

Hello one and all, have come across this and am finding trouble sourcing a mei fo ( Im told?!)

Goto Keijo ( Mitsumori) 1739 - 1804) have searched the Board but to no avail.

Anyone have a mei for this Goto?

Opinions welcomed and desired if possible. 

Many thanks for any assistance,

Regards Mike

[SteveM]

Yes, this is 後藤慶乗 (Gotō Keijō).

You can find another of his works at the link below (yahoo auction... may time out). 

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u432282539

Here is the signature. I wouldn't draw any conclusions from this one example. 

 

[shakudo]

Hi Steve,

Many thanks for this example. Thats what Im looking for- as many as I can find so I can form an opinion on it.

Regards Mike.

[Tanto54]

Dear Mike, I think that you may be mixing the two different Goto Keijo.  They used different kanji.  Yours is 慶乗 (as Steve pointed out) who was the 2nd Master of the Genbei Line of Goto.  The other is 桂乗 who was the 14th Master of the Main Line Goto.  You mentioned "Mitsumori" and dates of 1739 - 1804 (that's the other guy), but your guy is "Mitsunori" with dates of 1651-1692.  Your guy worked in Kyoto and the other guy worked in Edo.  Hope this helps.

[shakudo]

Dear George,

Many thanks for that- thought there maybe a different line and this maybe one of them. Interesting its earlier- using info supplied unfortunately and its not papered obviously. Dont suppose you have a mei at all?

Thanks once again.

Mike

[Tanto54]

Dear Mike, sorry, I don't have that mei (I checked my Wakayama and Sesko).  Your guy is Haynes #03083 and he says your mei is in a different Wakayama (Toso Kinko Jiten) at W-117-L-7 .  Perhaps someone here has that book and can help or you can track it down.

[shakudo]

Dear George,

Much appreciated for that info- I will try to source but dont know anyone with those resources. Might get lucky!

Thank you so much for taking the time to share.

Regards Mike.

[Barrie B]

Hi Micheal,

 

I could not find this in the Kinko Meikan or in Markus' Signatures of Japanese Sword Fitting Artists. Unfortunately I don't have Wakayama's publication. Good luck.

 

Barrie.

[shakudo]

Hi members,

Thanks to George, Steve and Barrie for their input on this tsuba mei. As I have not had any further responses with regard to samples of mei for Mitsunori 1651- 1692 (2nd master of the Genbei Goto line) I must assume that I will have to send to Shinsa. Thanks again for all who responded and to those who visited .Tsuba has landed so can now forward pics if your interested. 

Regards Mike.

[kissakai]

Will shinsa you you all you wish?

They can be lacking in detail

My sword came back as Tadayoshi but no generation which was annoying!

 

[shakudo]

Hi Grev,  sorry for late reply. So Tadayoshi- mei or mumei? The tsuba has mei so either shoshin or gimei! I know some collectors who only go for mumei- cant be gimei but have seen blades with 3 different appraisals- I have one with 2- may put it up again and see!

Cheers 

[kissakai]

Omi Daito 3rd gen but nothing much on the cert

If you think about Yamakichibei going for shinsa and only coming back with name any yes if gimei the papers would say so