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I am wanting purchase a wakizashi from Aoi Art. Besides the price of the item, what other fees are associated with bringing the item to the US? It appears they charge additional for the shipping. Not sure what the best method of payment will be to avoid or get the lowest fees possible. Use a credit card and pay the balance immediately? Paypal and bank wire will definitely be a fee.

 

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It may depend on whether you are in the auction section or the buying section. In the buying section it clearly states that shipping and insurance are included in the price. When I bought from them in Tokyo there was no additional shipping or insurance charge. They also took a combination of cash and credit.They are very easy to deal with and may take credit (plus the 3% credit charge) so it’s worth dropping them a line and asking. Good luck!

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28 minutes ago, 1kinko said:

It may depend on whether you are in the auction section or the buying section.

This is a set price item, not an auction item. Thank you for your reply!

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I have bought a few swords from them Dan, and agree with Darrel that it is very easy.  You will only have to pay the agreed upon price of the sword, as the shipping, de-registration etc. is all included in the price.  

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1 hour ago, Katsujinken said:

Note that depending on the value of the sword there may be some import fees. 

That is one of the big questions I also had. 

Did you have to pay import fees "Surfson" Robert?

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The answer depends on the country. Some countries have a minimus (amount below which they do not charge import duty). Some countries charge a VAT or other tax based only on price. Some items may be duty free e.g. antiques over a certain age. Some items are charged import (duty) fees.

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14 hours ago, DTM72 said:

That is one of the big questions I also had. 

Shipping via UPS Worldwide Expedited is included in the price, unless otherwise stated, which is usually in parenthesis next to the price, if so, along with any additional payment fees. (Usually only applicable on very high dollar items.) They will confirm your order via email, and send you an invoice for the amount, which you can pay via credit/debit card without any additional fees. I can't speak to the process with wire transfers or other payment options.

In my experience they get the export license at 3 weeks, pretty much on the nose, and ship within 2-3 business days from that time. You will need to provide a tax ID # (I use my social) to UPS Brokerage/International. Keep an eye on the tracking and call them when the status shows that an ID number is required for clearance.

After that information has been forwarded, and the package has cleared, you will need to pay any customs/import/UPS brokerage fees. There will be a link in the tracking status result saying COD import fees or some such thing are required. You can click the hyperlink and pay with a credit card, or pay the driver directly when it gets delivered to you. (I've read paying it immediately online speeds up the process.)

For antique swords (over 100 years old and around the $4000 range) I've always paid close to $40 dollars total for the brokerage/import fees.
For a modern sword (1972, around $4300) I paid almost $160 total, as there is a tariff/tax applied to 'new'/non-antique products, contingent on stated/invoice value.

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No, I have not had to pay import fees, since the swords I have bought have all been over 100 years old.  

 

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Nor have I. And once the sword has shipped it arrives in a few days. Great service, no extra fees.

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Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but has anyone from the UK bought from AOI recently? If so, what was the import experience like?

 

I'm interested to know if they provide all the info that HMRC need to ensure that I only pay the 5% tax/VAT rate and not 20% (e.g. proof of age for antique status, etc).  Any info/advice appreciated.

 

Cheers,

 

Jon

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Hi Jon, not had any issues with Aoi in the past with importing to UK, just make sure they state the customs tariff for antiques which is 9706.00.00.00 on the description and add  ANTIQUE OVER 100 YEARS OLD.....RELIEF REQUESTED

 

That should do it..

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Thanks Alex, advice much appreciated. 

 

I don't have any definite "targets" yet, but they seem to have a good selection of swords across a wide range of prices and are mentioned a lot on the message boards.

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Thinking about it Jon, i did have one small issue but it was resolved quickly. Bought a sword and it turned up with some rust spots in the Bo-hi (groove), they accepted it back but shipping it back took some time and was a bit of a worry (as shipping swords ALWAYS is). I didnt study the images online as closely as i should have done. 

 

There is no rush to buy a sword, hang around for a bit and get to know what you like first. No point buying something then wishing you hadn't, as a lot of folk do when they become interested in these swords.

 

You see some fair deals on Aoi, sometimes great deals though in the sales section below.

 

Usually, new folk have to have the "katana", but tanto or waks can be a better option. Lets face it, you dont need a 70cm blade for study and they can be pretty cumbersome. Shipping is more awkward and then you get the likes of customs and couriers being a little more curious, maybe

 

All depends where you shop, i am but an humble bottom dweller happy with stuff like this Tanto: Kanekishi | Japanese Sword Shop Aoi-Art (aoijapan.com)

 

Nota recommendation, just personal preference and making the point that it does not need to be so expensive.

 

No papers, no need, good saving. Nice signed blade, nice fittings., small, easily studied,  easily shipped, happy days. 

 

Have fun!

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Hi Jon,

 

I haven't bought from them recently but the importation process went smoothly, I think on three occasions, and I had no issues in terms of how the items were described in the paperwork and import tax paid. I once had to chase them over a tracking number once as there was a typo in the one they gave me but this was dealt with quickly and was easily resolved.

 

Like Alex, I had an issue over the condition of a blade: because they scan images of their swords they have to photoshop in what is effectively a generic mune and one that I bought had a muneware that didn't show in the picture. Unfortunately, I was less than eagle-eyed and it was very fine so I didn't notice it until some time later and I didn't feel I could raise the issue with them so I'm partially at fault, but  I did feel somewhat disappointed that it hadn't been mentioned in the sales blurb as it wasn't something I could see and take a view on in the pictures. They are normally pretty good at highlighting the big stuff though i.e. fatal flaws like hagiri or issues with signatures.

 

Like Alex says, size isn't everything and take your time - there's no shortage of swords and the right one will come up before long.

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Alex & John - Thanks for the advice, its very much appreciated.

 

Yes, I'm in no rush, just testing-the-water relating to suppliers mentioned on the site and looking over a very wide selection of suppliers & blades while reading-around the subject.

 

I'll start a new thread with a new UK-related question (I don't want to hijack this thread!)

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