What would you say: Umetada or Kaga ?

[Kurikata]

Hi,

 

I don't know if this kozuka can be classified as Umetada or Kaga school. What are your views ?

[Geraint]

Dear Bruno.

 

That looks like a nice koshirae.  If it were mine I would be quite happy describing the kozuka as Kaga zogan rather than Umetada. A series of small insects on a shakudo or shibuichi ground is pretty typical of the work.   Interested to see what others say.  Any chance of some photographs of the rest of the koshirae?

 

All the best.

[Kurikata]

Thank you Geraint. I would tend on Kaga too as the tsuba is Kaga school itself.....

[Geraint]

Wow Bruno!  That is gorgeous.  Thank you for sharing the images.

 

All the best.

[Curran]

I suggest Kozenji as a likely alternative. It is a late Edo high grade kinko work from a small group in the Nagoya (Owari) area.

  -flowers, and complicated gold keyfret inlaid work executed on very good shakudo  =>  Kozenji.

 

Kozenji tsuba. (Owari kinko)   -  likely kozenji, though I wouldn't bet my life on it.

Kozenji fuchi.   (Owari kinko)   -  your fuchi is classic Kozenji design.

The kozuka could be called Umetada or Kaga. Due to shape, I'd say Umetada- but that is just opinion.

Nice cloissone kogai chopsticks.

 

Attached, my Kozenji tsuba. Came out of a Phili area museum deacquisiton.

Its daisho twin is in the Boston MFA.

Cool stuff.

 

I had a kozenji f/k very similar to  yours, but sold it. I'm not sure if it would be okay to post the images here, since they are now the property of the other owner.

 

[Yasaka Azuma]

4 hours ago, Curran said:

Attached, my Kozenji tsuba. Came out of a Phili area museum deacquisiton.

Its daisho twin is in the Boston MFA.

Cool stuff.

 

 

 

This is a great collection. I feel that the mainstream of Tosogu collection is shifting to foreign countries these days. Now that I think about it, the Japanese only collect cheap and fake.
It was Kenichi-Kokubo who made a distinction between Mino and Kozenji metalwork. Kozenji is different from my understanding. But that's fine. I hope should do what you want.

 

https://twitter.com/yakozen777/status/1230979387144560640

[Kurikata]

Thank you Curran to have shown such a marvelous tsuba. Thank you also to mention this very specific school "Kozenji" that I didn't know before this thread.

[Kurikata]

Please , excuse my insistence but for the time being, I only have 3 opinions:

 

- Umetada: 1 (Curran)

-Kaga: 2 (Geraint and I)

 

Some other views?

[kissakai]

Have another read of both schools to see if you can come to an opinion

[Curran]

This is flipping a coin.

It could be either. I only went with Umetada due to the unusual shape.