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I have two very recent acquisitions and 'd like a bit of education which are in two separate posts

Uwe has already given me some advice which I hope I've shown correctly

I have contacted David Thatcher but his workload is massive!



The "han-bô" is of the "saru-bô" type (monkey cheeks). These kind of face masks had no nose guard, unlike me-no-shita men (or short "menpo").

The han-bô bears some age and might be dated back to the early/mid Edo period. Hard to tell, if it was once lacquered?!

Although the pictures suggesting, that the tare don´t belong to the mask, it fits quite well in terms of colour and shape (the first lame is a bit short though).


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My questions:

Should it have the minimum restoration or left alone

If restored what needs to be done

Any other information will be of great help to me







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The Beatles

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Help, not just anybody (a katchu collector)
Help, you know I need someone, help

When I was younger, so much younger than today
I never needed anybody's help in any way
But now these days are gone, I'm not so self assured
Now I find I've changed my mind and opened up the doors

Help me if you can, I'm feeling down

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1 hour ago, kissakai said:

I am a little surprised that I've had no replies to my two posts

I have had an insightful PM about the kabuto  and this post can now be considered closed


Back to the hanbo

Just one question. Does anyone have an image showing the correct tare?


Hi Grev,


unfortunately, there is no such a thing like “correct” tare in this sense. Different types of tare are possible. The only question left is, does it fit or does it not fit?

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