Location or Family Name?

[Justin Grant]

Good evening,

 

I am researching a group of families that used a particular Kamon. The book (in Japanese), list this as the family and province. I  translated them, but not sure I have the Miyazaki translated properly. I can only find it as a province and within the Hyuga region. So maybe I have translated it wrong?

 

宮崎氏　Miyazaki Family

日向国（ひゅうがのくに）Hyūga Province

 

Lastly, not sure what this means. I may have the wrong first Kanji, the book font is small and uses a fancy type that makes finding radicals and such difficult.

 

采図部4, 姓氏家采

 

The book it titled 家紋でたどるあなたの家采 and I am on page 三七二

 

Thank you,

 

Justin  .... lost in radicals and translation.....

 

[Bugyotsuji]

Hi Justin, can you get a shot of what you are looking at? I am not quite sure what you are asking.

[Justin Grant]

I’ll take a photo

[Justin Grant]

This shows the first question, the family name I think says Miyazaki.

 

[Justin Grant]

Here is the other part of the question. It’s the 4th column in parentheses

 

[Justin Grant]

Not sure why my phone rotates the images. Sorry

[Bugyotsuji]

系図　Keizu is like a family tree.

 

Miyazaki is correct for place or name, though it may be possible that someone insists on reading their name as ‘Miyasaki’ for example.

[Bruce Pennington]

Not sure why my phone rotates the images. Sorry

I have found that if you crop a picture, even a tiny bit, they post upright for some reason.

[Bugyotsuji]

Bruce, that works with an iPhone, in fact any little edit you do on a photo and then save it, will fix its orientation.

[Baka Gaijin]

Good morning Justin and Piers,

 

Just in case, the Kamon depicted on post #5 are:

 

Mukai Hato - two pigeons

 

and

 

Maru ni Mukai Hato - two pigeons within a circle

 

There's a reference to the Mukaibato むかい ばと as a talismanic reference to the number 8 read as Hachi, and symbolism for Hachiman.

 

Check this out, it may be a jumping off point:

 

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Pf3PAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA98&lpg=PA98&dq=mukai+Hato&source=bl&ots=DMBB9iu86E&sig=ACfU3U2x5C-ah_MBAk5VH3gNiRCaUXT1gQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjpprOH2ezpAhXfQxUIHYfhDYUQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=mukai%20Hato&f=false

 

[Justin Grant]

Thanks all! The Hatto on my Kabuto have one with its mouth closed and the other open, a possible Buddhist reference?

 

Lots of interesting subtle references. My armor also has Amano kamon references, which leads me to the Koriki line that used this Kamon, since these two families had a lot of history.