PietroParis Posted September 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2022 Tatsutoshi on Yahoo! Japan, unpapered: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted October 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 I have just bought this unpapered Tatsutoshi on Yahoo! Japan: I had given up on it after a little bidding war and then I got a message from Buyee telling me that the seller had canceled the highest bid. I guess that the other bidder was the seller him/herself, just probing how high I would be pushed. Let's hope there won't be bad surprises with the condition of the tsuba – which does show a bit of corrosion in the pictures – or with the taxes... Does anyone here have experience with getting Buyee to use the proper description and tariff code for antiques? This said, am I correct in assuming that this tsuba represents a rice bale? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francois2605 Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 In the Buyee interface, you get to choose how to describe the package via a drop down list. There's an entry "Antique" in the list. If I remember correctly, you can do it upon choosing the shipping method 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 A rice bail or a woven straw mat for a tea room etc.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted October 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bugyotsuji said: A rice bail or a woven straw mat for a tea room etc.? Oh yes that would be an option: Is this a known motif for tsuba? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted October 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/17/2022 at 2:10 PM, francois2605 said: In the Buyee interface, you get to choose how to describe the package via a drop down list. There's an entry "Antique" in the list. If I remember correctly, you can do it upon choosing the shipping method Turns out there is no "Antique" in the list, but if you choose "Other" you can enter your own text. I went for "Antique iron ornament HS 97069000", because I was afraid that "fitting" alone would sound too ambiguous and "sword fitting" (or "sword guard") would invite trouble. We'll see how it works out... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted October 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 Two Tatsutoshi on Yahoo! Japan, the second with depatination issues: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Namitoshi on Yahoo! Japan, and the usual Tatsunao model on eBay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted October 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 Namitoshi on Yahoo! Japan: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted October 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 The style of this one from eBay is somewhat familiar, and it is papered Hozon to 宜寿 (Yoshitoshi?). Could it be another student that is missing from Sesko's list? P.S. I noticed that there is another tsuba with this signature earlier in the thread: https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/32300-tatsutoshi-students/page/2/#comment-404969 P.P.S. I also noticed that the same tsuba is sold at a much lower price on Mercari, a Japanese direct-sale site. The eBay ad might be from one of those parasites who re-sell at inflated prices items they don't yet own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted October 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 Another 宜寿 on Mercari: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted October 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 12/3/2021 at 8:27 PM, Surfson said: That page from Markus' book indicates that Akao and Ito are similar lineages, which resolves my earlier questions. I like the work a lot. While trying to identify the 宜寿 mentioned above, I noticed a detail that may be relevant here: The Ito/Ido school that according to Sesko's Genealogies was founded by Tatsutoshi has a short "o", and is written 井戸 . It is not clear to me whether this is the name of a place or of a family. In contrast, the Itō in Bushū-Itō school has a long "o" (indeed, it is sometimes transcribed as "Itoh", "Itoo", "Itou"), and it is written 伊藤 . This appears to be the family name of the school's founder, see also this site. Thus, it may be that the two schools are not related after all. I wonder if some more-knowledgeable member can clarify... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted October 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 To compound my confusion, here is a certificate with 武州井戸派 (Bushū-Ito/Ido school)... P.S. many thanks to SteveM for precious clarifications on the Itō/Ito issue in this other thread ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Namitoshi on Yahoo! Japan, with rust issues: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted January 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2023 A Zodiacally correct Namitoshi on Yahoo! Japan. Cheap but, once again, rusty: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted March 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 Tatsutoshi on Yahoo! Japan, with somewhat unusual inlays: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgensen Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 Funny to see this thread... I have got an Akao tsuba as well... Signed Efu ju Akao Yoshitsugu w/NBTHK HOZON More pictures here: https://tsubashi.com/product/signed-akao-school-w-nbthk-hozon/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted April 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 Tatsutoshi on eBay, crazy expensive: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted July 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Unpapered Tatsutoshi on Yahoo! Japan. Not sure about the authenticity, but it went quite cheap: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROKUJURO Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Pietro, I like that one a lot! Very elegant! If it was not signed, I would have guessed it to be AKAO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted July 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 8 hours ago, ROKUJURO said: I like that one a lot! Very elegant! If it was not signed, I would have guessed it to be AKAO. Your guess would have been justified, since Tatsutoshi's "Ido" school is supposed to be an offshoot of the Akao school (see the genealogy towards the end of the first page of this thread). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted September 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 Tatsutoshi on Yahoo! Japan. Cheap, unpapered and kinda rusty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted September 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 ...but not as rusty as this Namitoshi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted December 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 Namitoshi on eBay, expensive and poorly photographed: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 Tatsunao on Yahoo! Japan: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROKUJURO Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Pietro, that is a nice one! Is that MOMIJI motif? Unfortunately, I cannot see YAHOO offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 This appears to be Tatsunao’s most common motif, as you may see by earlier posts in this thread. I had to google what momiji means (something like “red leaves” or more likely just “maple”), I can’t say if this is how the motif is usually called. Finally, I can’t see yahoo! auctions directly either, I use buyee as a proxy site (see this link). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROKUJURO Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Thank you Pietro! MOMIJI are indeed maple leaves. They show beautiful autumn colours and are much liked in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 On yahoo! Japan, the weirdest Tatsutoshi I've ever seen. Is it even a tsuba? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietroParis Posted March 14 Author Report Share Posted March 14 A good-looking Tatsutoshi on Yahoo! Japan: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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