IJASWORDS Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Ok, I admit I get caught up with the variety found in gunto fittings. But I have seen dozens of types of sarute. Even the clasped hand design has so many variations, from just rudimentary fingers, to a full on pre-corona virus hand shake. Here are a few. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 That's a good observation, Neil. Hadn't notices the variation before. Fits, though, about what we have learned about variations of other parts among the manufacturers. Showing my ignorance, but is the clasped hands the same as monkey hands? or are they different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IJASWORDS Posted March 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Bruce, I believe it is.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stegel Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 I like the first one Neil, had a look at mine and i got 2 aswell. Here they are.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 The earlier ones appear to be a touch more stylized from the examples so far. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IJASWORDS Posted March 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 A few more. The centre example looks like a well formed hand over another. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stegel Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 Hey Neil, Kind of in the same theme, i found another while looking in my fridge over the weekend! This one has got lovely patina and is my favourite. No??.....O.K just noticed the spelling isn't the same, but it does start with 'S' and has a 't' in it ! 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 G'day Neil, Here is mine on a nice type 94. Looks similar to your first example. Cheers, Bryce 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IJASWORDS Posted March 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 Interesting Bryce, mine is also on an early model. Maybe the quality and detail declined during the war? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kai-Gunto Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 On my Kai-gunto. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Neil, Don't know if the is an actual "clasped hands" as the fingers seem to just be touching. Found on one of the few Mantetsu made with tachi-mei and in full tachi regaelia. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just came across this one. Appears to be on a set of old civil koshirae, found HERE 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolekt-To Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 And we should differentiate between the "Human Hands" style vs the "Ape Hand Deformity" (AKA, Monkey Hands) style. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 As the Gunto Koshirae were based off old Tachi the clasped hands Sarute goes back awhile. It would be neat to see if both the designs go back or if the more defined hands were introduced on Gunto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 The 25 Year SMR presentation tachi all use a clasped/monkey hand (can't tell which) sarute: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 this one has some pretty good detail. On a post by @Michaelr HERE: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiipu Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 For another example, see the NMB thread below. Looking to find out what this Sword may be - type, value From Korean War Time Period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiipu Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 On 3/19/2020 at 6:15 AM, Bruce Pennington said: is the clasped hands the same as monkey hands? sarute (猿手) – Lit. “monkey hand.” Ring on the pommel opening of a tachi to which a cord could be tied. From page 378 of Sesko's Encyclopedia of Japanese Swords. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 10 minutes ago, Kiipu said: sarute (猿手) – Lit. “monkey hand.” Ring on the pommel opening of a tachi to which a cord could be tied. From page 378 of Sesko's Encyclopedia of Japanese Swords. Wow, learn something every day! So, a guy can have a clasped-hands monkey-hand on his tsuka! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Another good example posted by @Yukihiro HERE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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