Kiipu Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Cross-Reference With only one ashi (suspension ring), these naval kai-gunto are often associated with Naval Landing Force officers (marines). The wooden saya may well have originally been plain with a black leather combat cover, but this one is painted black which may or may not be period. The sword is late war because of the black pitch tsuka; earlier swords would have been rayskin. WW2 Japanese 1937M Naval / Marine Officer's Kai-Gunto Katana, sold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted May 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Yes, good example Thomas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiipu Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 Cross-Reference You can tell this is a genuine WW2 Japanese Naval Landing Forces Officers Kai-Gunto because it only has a single ashi (suspension loop) plus has a leather combat cover. ... This is a late war gunto as there is no same (ray skin) but rather a black pitch fabric tsuba base cover. WW2 Japanese Naval Landing Forces Officers Kai-Gunto, Sold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted May 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Yes, looks like painted wood. It also seems to have that one-piece fuchi/seppa seen on a few late-war kaigunto and on all the post-war souvenirs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted June 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2023 We don't have a dedicated thread for Late War Kaigunto (one on Warrelics, though), so I'm posting this here. A mumei, late war kaigunto in leather covered saya, with army kabutogane. I've seen similar ones around. Note the kabutogane doesn't have the sakura and leaves around the edges (not a good shot, but I think I'm right about that). So the style we see on the souvenir is fashioned off this tone-down late war fashion, I think. Found on this Warrelics Thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcstroud Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 On 5/2/2022 at 11:04 PM, Bruce Pennington said: have that one-piece fuchi/seppa seen on a few late-war kaigunto and on all the post-war souvenirs: I must say that there are a few that were identified as souvenirs that have normal naval fuchi with separate seppas for the record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted June 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, Jcstroud said: there are a few that were identified as souvenirs that have normal naval fuchi with separate seppas for the record Which backs up our idea that the souvenir operation was, at least initially, using surplus parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gun addict Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 I posted this on the tassel thread, but this is a late war Gendai KaiGunto signed by Akikuni. Single haiken, and came with an Army tassel. It is sort of an amalgamation of early and late war features. Nice Samesaya, water quenched gendai, single haiken and no same on the grip. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted June 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 Here's a late war kaigunto. Note the fuchi that almost has a built-in seppa and has that, oh what to call it?, flimsy, bright, cheapily-made look to it, like the souvenir fuchi. Also, dig that horrible dai-seppa! Has a large-seki stamped Yoshitsugu blade in it. I wish it had been dated. I do have a single 1945 blade with the large seki stamp, so it's possible this was made that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcstroud Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, Bruce Pennington said: Here's a late war kaigunto. Note the fuchi that almost has a built-in seppa and has that, oh what to call it?, flimsy, bright, cheapily-made look to it, like the souvenir fuchi. Also, dig that horrible dai-seppa! Has a large-seki Does appear to have been made in a hurry,never have seen an o-seppa with such irregular geometry,the nakago shape would make it dificult to get a good wedge fit for the tsuka as well.only an observation not a criticizm. With respect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiipu Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 A late war Takayama sword found by Conway S. Note the unusual menuki. 高山刀正廣謹作 Takayama-tō Masahiro kinsaku TAKAYAMA MASHIRO SIGNED TAKAYAMA-TO SWORD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcstroud Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 A good example of a Naval Rinji Seishiki with 2 mekugi ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conway S Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 Only looking at the sword without consideration to the mounts, would the absence of togishi on the mei lend itself to being late war production knowing that Masahiro and Masanao Takayama-to usually have the polisher listed? Conway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted August 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 Adding photos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcstroud Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 From this photo using a width to length ratio the calculated nakago length of 243 mm verifies this is a Takayama built rinji seishiki so they did exist! Cool. That is equal to 9.259 inches. Using the total blade length of34.75 inches-9.59 =25.16 inches or 2.1 shaku.+- John S. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conway S Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 @Bruce Pennington I didn't forget about your request for more photos of the Masayasu I posted in the General Nihonto thread. See below for an up close picture of the "delta punch" found on these swords. I tried to get a clear shot of the mune stamp, but the numbers are very small. Conway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted October 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Conway S said: I tried to get a clear shot of the mune stamp, but the numbers are very small. Thanks Conway! That's what God invented the ZOOM for! Ha! Looks like "2 55" or it's a katakana "ク 55". There's an extra horizontal line at the bottom of it, though, like a poorly struck "2", so unless someone thinks otherwise, I'm going with "2 55". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiipu Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 In the picture above, it is 2 with the 55 stamped upside down. So maybe the 2 means something different compared to the 55? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted October 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Kiipu said: In the picture above, it is 2 with the 55 stamped upside down. So maybe the 2 means something different compared to the 55? That does remind me of the blades we see with a lone 1 or lone 2, like they are inspector stamps. So, in this case, it could be Inspector 2, on a blade marked with "55". Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conway S Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 Here are a few pictures of the koshirae on the Masayasu. I think the kabutogane with no hole for the sarute is an interesting feature. Conway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conway S Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted October 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 Yes, definitely late-war kaigunto. Interesting, too, the blade was made with 2 ana, but one was filled before the mei was cut, and the mei was chiseled over the filler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiipu Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Quote Late WW2 Japanese Officers Katana in its original leather bound field scabbard. Has iron mounts and a mint condition polished blade. There are issue stamp and also armours writing on tang. Generally in good condition for age. Approximately 97cm overall and blade 66cm. Late WW2 Japanese Officers Katana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 Posting photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 Here's a real rough, last stage navy rinji. For sale HERE. One of the Inaba blades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiipu Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 That is one of the sword patterns that can be seen in the surrender pile at Sword Capture Pile - Japan 1945. @Jareth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted January 19 Author Report Share Posted January 19 3 hours ago, Kiipu said: That is one of the sword patterns that can be seen in the surrender pile at Sword Capture Pile - Japan 1945. @Jareth Wow, Thomas! What a memory/attention to detail!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Finally we see an actual example from that photo! Thanks! Asking price is crazy in my opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 It may even be the same sword. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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