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Thanks for the explanation Bruce, I didn't realize the Rinji was designed for the lower mekugi ana to use a threaded screw. I owned a Type 3 for several years which used wooden mekugi pegs, and am rather stunned I hadn't noticed lower threaded type before.

 

Thanks again,

 

Dave M.

Dave,

I'll have to say that, knowing the multitude of variations in WWII gunto, there very well may be some Rinji that were built from the beginning with two mekugi. Even with one in hand, there would be no way to know without removing the ito and same' to see if the wood was notched for a metal plate.

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Dave,

Actually, the "type 3" or Contingency model (Rinji-seishiki), was designed with the lower ana being filled with a screw. They have a thin metal plate on the other side for the screw to attach to. The upper ana takes a mekugi. I'd say 80% of these are lost through time, so people replace them with mekugi. I usually see them for sale with a mekugi in the lower ana and the upper ana empty (likely because someone has removed the upper one to replace the missing screw.

 

Here is one with the ito and same' gone, showing the square where the metal plate fits (missing on this one. A Bubba had put a bolt and nut in it, along with naugahayde for handle wrap!)

Hey Bruce...when exactly is snipe season in Colorado...maybe I can join you for a hunt one day!!   :)

 

Dave M.

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Hey Bruce...when exactly is snipe season in Colorado...maybe I can join you for a hunt one day!!   :)

 

Dave M.

I've tried, and tried, but I can't figure out the joke, Dave. I know a snipe hunt is a joke guys play on rookies, but I'm lost with the reference, here.

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My apologies Bruce, I just thought you were kidding me about the huge flat head screw that Bubba Maximus placed in you nice Rinji.

 

Were the threaded Rinji's mainly because the tsuka were not the two mekugi ana type??

 

Ohh, also, the last known snipe in Idaho was taken in 1953 by Oliver Thurdgaster. By 1953 the snipe had become sooo rare, they were only allowed to be taken by sling shot using a large flat head screw affixed to a square nut... Ok...I'll stop..

 

As always, your contributions to the NMB are very much appreciated!

 

Dave M.

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I am a bit confused, is the lower mekugi ana the one closer to the nakago giri or the tsuba? Are not all references to upper/lower made with the blade up as one would hold it if reading the signiture?

Thanx for the clarification.

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Ok, this is what you are seeing in my Rinji. It's an original WWII screw made for the Rinji tsuka. Mine was missing the screw, and I got one from Neil. The Bubba-bolt was on another Rinji.

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I am a bit confused, is the lower mekugi ana the one closer to the nakago giri or the tsuba? Are not all references to upper/lower made with the blade up as one would hold it if reading the signiture?

Thanx for the clarification.

Sorry Chuck, I knew I was going to cause confusion when I chose those words! The screw goes in the ana closest to the tsuba. Mekugi is closest to the kabutogane.

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I have seen rinji with

A...2 screws, each entering from the opposite side.

B...1 screw / 1 peg types

C.. 2 peg types.

 

Screw types always have a 'threadless nut' as a rest for the screw head at the screw head end and a threaded nut at the threaded end (usually hidden by the same/binding)...this is so the screw (if over-tightened) will not crush the wooden hilt.

Hope this helps,

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This is a typical lower screw design, screw head one side, no corresponding hole the other. 

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