Translation Saidan Mei

[jelda44]

Hi friends,

can I ask for help with the translation of Saidan Mei on my sword ?

Thank you in advance

Jiri

[Shugyosha]

Hi Jiri,

 

First line: "On the 19^th day of November in the first year of Man’en (1860) at Senju, tai tai dotan barai".

 

(Cut the body across the chest at the level of the collar bone and into the earth mound).

 

Second line: Yamada Yoshitoyo tested this.

 

Best,

John

[jelda44]

Hi Jiri,

 

First line: "On the 19^th day of November in the first year of Man’en (1860) at Senju, tai tai dotan barai".

 

(Cut the body across the chest at the level of the collar bone and into the earth mound).

 

Second line: Yamada Yoshitoyo tested this.

 

Best,

John

Thank you very much for helping with the translation. Just a question. So what kind of sinking is that ?

Thank you and I greet you

Jiri

[Shugyosha]

Hi Jiri,

 

I am very sorry but I don't know what you are asking. This morning I didn't have time to set out all the kanji fully but maybe this will answer your question:

 

万延                        

Man’en

Nengo period commencing 1860.

 

元年

gannen    

First year (1860)

 

十一月

ju ichi gatsu

 

11th month (November)

 

十九日

 

Ju ku bi

19th day

 

於                                             千住

Oite                                          Senju

At (in the place called )              Senju

 

太 々 (this (々) symbol indicates that the previous kanji is repeated) so:

 

Tai tai

 

Literally “very thick”. The cut made on a human body (dead or alive, the inscription doesn’t say) across the chest at the level of the collar bone.

 

土                              壇                   拂

 

Do                            tan                   barai

 

Earth                        mound             (barai – literally to sweep away, but used to indicate entering the earth mound after cutting through the  

                                                       body in sword tests).

 

山田            吉豊                   試         之

 

Yamada     Yoshitoyo          tamesu     kore

 

Name of person doing test   tested     this.

 

I hope that helped. If not, please let us know your nationality and perhaps one of the other members can help to translate from this.

 

John

[jelda44]

Hi Jiri,

 

I am very sorry but I don't know what you are asking. This morning I didn't have time to set out all the kanji fully but maybe this will answer your question:

 

万延                        

Man’en

Nengo period commencing 1860.

 

元年

gannen    

First year (1860)

 

十一月

ju ichi gatsu

 

11th month (November)

 

十九日

 

Ju ku bi

19th day

 

於                                             千住

Oite                                          Senju

At (in the place called )              Senju

 

太 々 (this (々) symbol indicates that the previous kanji is repeated) so:

 

Tai tai

 

Literally “very thick”. The cut made on a human body (dead or alive, the inscription doesn’t say) across the chest at the level of the collar bone.

 

土                              壇                   拂

 

Do                            tan                   barai

 

Earth                        mound             (barai – literally to sweep away, but used to indicate entering the earth mound after cutting through the  

                                                       body in sword tests).

 

山田            吉豊                   試         之

 

Yamada     Yoshitoyo          tamesu     kore

 

Name of person doing test   tested     this.

 

I hope that helped. If not, please let us know your nationality and perhaps one of the other members can help to translate from this.

 

John

Thank you very much for the willingness and the perfect answer.

Have a nice day

Jiri

[PNSSHOGUN]

Dotan Barai was often used to infer that the sword easily cut through the bodies.