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I haven't received these yet as I am still waiting for the permit from Japan to export. They are both unsigned but I am hoping it's a good start to a collection. I got them both for a fairly reasonable price (I think).

 

I am just starting so please be patient with me. Is this a decent start?

 

The wakizashi is from the Mino school. It was made around 1688 or so I am told. It appears to be in good condition. I will have measurements and better picture once I receive them.

 

 

The tanto is from the mid 1850's unsigned from the Bizen school.

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Dear..

 

Welcome, I'm sure you'll enjoy and appreciate your time on this board.

 

Both look real, polish looks good, and both have papers (albeit older ones). Depending on the price i think you did alright. I hope you enjoy your purchases, treat them well. Did you also receive or buy a maintenance kid? You should read up on that if you haven't really done anything like owning nihonto before.

 

 

Kind regards,

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I have been an avid gun collector for thirty years. I am just getting started with the nihonto. I have other katana but they are geared towards the practitioner side. I think the maintenance kits that comes with those swords are lacking.

 

I need to purchase a quality maintenance kit. Any ideas on the best place to obtain one? Most of the kits online are cheap Chinese kits with baby powdered filled uchiko.

 

I don't mind telling what I paid. I might get better insight if I know whether I paid to much...

Wakizashi was 1350 usd

Tanto was 800 usd

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I have been an avid gun collector for thirty years. I am just getting started with the nihonto. I have other katana but they are geared towards the practitioner side. I think the maintenance kits that comes with those swords are lacking.

 

I need to purchase a quality maintenance kit. Any ideas on the best place to obtain one? Most of the kits online are cheap Chinese kits with baby powdered filled uchiko.

 

I don't mind telling what I paid. I might get better insight if I know whether I paid to much...

Wakizashi was 1350 usd

Tanto was 800 usd

 It's a good price imho keeping in mind they are in polish, shirasaya, papered and the waki even have mountings, very nice

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Wow! Looks like there are a couple local enthusiasts near me. I am actually a little north of Boston. It's a small town called Ipswich, great seafood and antique shops.

 

Thanks for all the feedback. This is the type of forum I really enjoy. Friendly, informed people with a lot to offer!

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Hi Erick and welcome. Congrats on the new blades it looks like you got a fair deal. Its not a good idea to use uchiko on blades in polish, just micro fibre and a thin coat of oil as John said above in all. All the best.

 

Greg

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Here is some addition info on the wakizashi. The habaki is what really caught my eye!

 

脇差 WAKIZASHI ANTIQUE Japanese SWORD NBTHK KICHO  41.9cm


UNSIGNED兼植KANETANE MINO SCHOOL MID EDO


脇差 Wakizashi Antique Japanese Sword,

 

Unsigned  越前 兼植 Echizen Kanetane


Hacho(Cutting edge,Blade length):  41.9cm

 

美濃伝 Mino School

 

越前 兼法  派  Echizen Knenori-Group (Disciple of Echizen Knenori )

新刀  Shinto (New Swords)

 

江戸時代中期  Mid Edo period (around 元禄 Genroku era  1688 s )


With the certificate of 貴重刀剣  NBTHK   Kicho Token  Paper 


NBTHK  (The Nihon Bijutsu Token Hozon Kyokai)


With Koshirae 

 

 ・Made this sword around Mid Edo period (around 元禄 Genroku  era  1688 s )

 

・The category of this sword is新刀  Shinto (New Swords).

 

・兼植 Kanetane , living in越前国 (Echizen-no-kuni),

 Now, 福井県 ( Fukui Pref.) was the famous swordsmith

 

    in越前国 (Echizen-no-kuni) .

・This sword seems to show all the characteristics of越前 兼法  派  Echizen

    Knenori-Group`s work.

 

・The Hamon (temper line) is  互の目乱れ Gonome-midare.

・地肌 Jihada(forging grain) is 板目肌 Itame-Hada.


・Certificate of Authenticity, authenticated by NBTHK

 

   (The Nihon Bijutsu Token Hozon Kyokai) on April 19, 1970. (No. 188130)

   貴重刀剣  Kicho  Token  Paper


-We phoned NBTHK and confirmed the certificate.


・Old polish


・There are tiny scratches due to in and out from the scabbard.


・There are tiny kitae-kizu.


・Beautiful and elegant appearance with age appropriate.

 

・Attachment:   Shirasaya,Tsunagi

 <Koshirae>

・This Koshirae was made around Late Edo to fit this sword

・縁Fuchi is design of馬Uma (Horse) .

・頭Kashira is design of龍Ryu (Dragon) .

   ***Please see the pictures # 11

・The pair of 目貫 Menuki is琴奏者 Koto player(琴Koto : long Japanese zither)

     ***Please see the pictures # 11

・小柄 Kozuka is design of 馬Uma (Horse) .

・鍔Tsuba is design of 卒塔婆 Sotoba (Stupa, Grave marker )

 

<Blade>

Hacho(Cutting edge,Blade length): 41.9cm

Sori (Curvature): 0.7cm

Motomihaba (Width at the Hamachi):  2.89cm

Motokasane(Thickness of Motokasane):  6.3mm

Sakimihaba:  2.31cm

Sakikasane:  5.4mm

Nakago (The tang of the blade) Length:  14.8cm

Material: Iron

刃文 ,Hamon (temper line): 互の目乱れGonome-midare.

地肌 Jihada(forging grain): 板目肌  Its Itami -Hada.
Tsukurikomi: Shinogi zukuri

#of Mekugi-ana(the hole for the mekugi):  1

 

Signature:  None


Weight(Approx.):  420g –Blade only


Condition: Old polish

 There are tiny scratches due to in and out from the scabbard,

 There are tiny kitae-kizu. 


-Koshirae –

Saya (Scabbard)>

Size(Approx): 56.1cm(Length)

Material: Wood,

Condition: Age appropriate


<Tsuka (Hilt)>

Size: 17.1cm (Length)

Material: Wood, Sharkskin, Dark brown Tsukaito

Condition: Age appropriate

<縁頭Fuchi,Kashira>

頭 Kashira

Design: 龍Ryu (Dragon)

Material:  赤銅 Shakudo , Gold

Technique: Takabori


縁Fuchi

Design: 馬Uma (Horse)
Material: 赤銅 Shakudo ,

Condition: Age appropriate.

 

<目貫 Menuki>

Design: 琴奏者 Koto player(琴 Koto : long Japanese zither)

Material: 赤銅 Shakudo,

Condition: Age appropriate.


<鍔 Tsuba>

Design: 卒塔婆 Sotoba (Stupa,Grave marker  )

Material: Iron

Technique: 磨き地 Migaki-ji,小透かし Ko-sukashi

Condition: Age appropriate.

 <小柄Kozuka>

Design:  馬Uma (Horse)

Material: 赤銅 Shakudo, Gold

Technique: 魚子地 Nanako-ji, Takabori

Condition: Age appropriate

 

<Habaki>

Design: 月夜 Tsukiyo ( Moonlight night)

Material: 赤銅 Shakudo, Gold, Silver 
Technique: 色絵象嵌  Iroe- Inlay

Condition: Age appropriate

 

<Seppa>

Material: Copper

Two seppa

 

Total weigh (Approx.) blade and Koshirae: 841g

Total length (Koshirae): 73.75cm

Shirasaya,Tsunagi   : 242g

 

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Beware of the maintenance kid, i had bokken class for my aikido kids last night for their first time; after being taught protocols and safety, one girl promptly disregarded instructions and quasi-impaled the boy student next to her in the groin! Could a "Maintenance Kid" be much better?! :doh:  jk Nice swords!

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Beware of the maintenance kid, i had bokken class for my aikido kids last night for their first time; after being taught protocols and safety, one girl promptly disregarded instructions and quasi-impaled the boy student next to her in the groin! Could a "Maintenance Kid" be much better?! :doh:  jk Nice swords!

Shameful disprayyy! 

Did she at least recovered her honor commiting sepukku?  :fit:

 

Jk, forgive my black humour  :laughing:

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