Beginner Question About Jihada

[javier]

Hi forum colleagues.

 

I was looking forward to learn more about the folding process that leads to the creation of each type of Jihada

 

I have been reading books and I was able to understand how Masame and Itame types are developed.

 

Could someone in the forum please let me know how the following basic patterns are creacted? Ayasugi; Muji and Mokume

 

Please consider that I am not a swordsmith or a chemist engineer I am just trying to reach "basic and low level" information in order to understand the difference in the folding, quenching and hammering process that leads to each of these Jihada types.

 

 

 

Javier

[John A Stuart]

So you want to be a Jihadist eh? Joke. Here, this goes into it a bit. http://meiboku.info/guide/form/hada/index.htm         John

[Brian]

So you want to be a Jihadist eh? Joke.

:laughing:

Had never made the connection. I wonder how many lists we are on?

[Ken-Hawaii]

Brian, one of my sword club members is an FBI agent, & I saw him literally jump the first time someone brought up ji-hada. He's also in my dojo, so I had the opportunity to explain what the term meant, but he still twitches.

 

Ken

 

[javier]

Wow ...! I have never made the connection between both words too !

 

 

In the future I will refer to Hada or Grain Pattern !

 

@John thank you for your answer!

 

Javier

[Ken-Hawaii]

You really can't do that easily, Javier, when you're talking about hada in the ji versus in the shinogi, for example. Just because the terms are similar, doesn't make them taboo!

 

Ken

 

[javier]

Thank you for your explanation Ken!

[Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini]

F*ck Echelon and Carnivore.

[Teimei]

^:laughing:

Had never made the connection. I wonder how many lists we are on?

 

^{I am on so many watchlists, one more does not really makes a difference anymore  !}

 

 

[Brian]

Javier,
The reason there is no real answer to your question, is that it can't be easily answered. If you fold and mix the steel too much, you lose the grain pattern, and the steel gets too homogenous...."muji"
But how the others are formed requires a knowledge of how the steel is folded. Different ways of folding and hammering = different hada. Hit circles into it, and fold in certain ways...you get ayasugi etc...
The damascus steel makers would understand better how the steel reacts to folding and layering.

 

[javier]

Thank you Brian!