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Holy crap! I've struck out from Friday on this one.

I am spending the day packing up my sword library in preparation for a move to be closer to our granddaughters. I opened the initial message as a break and took a quick hip shot that was wide of the mark. - TWICE. OMG. Then I thought I would help by seeing what Francis Allen and the Banzai guys had to say about Enfield carbines, But I think I packed that (terrific) volume a couple of days ago. Peter get a copy of it, I am sure that your will find it useful (even if I ain't)

 Steve, can you change my name on the earlier messages?

Peter

PS. And BTW, do you have any idea what a sword library weighs?

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Peter,

This page describes the Banzai volume on early imported arms in Japan. I admire it deeply, altho I have the feeling that as collectors get organized - worldwide - it may become a milestone long passed.

http://www.castle-thunder.com/japaneseimportedarms/

And I cannot find my copy! It is somewhere in those boxes of books.

Peter

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Hi Peter,

 

I'm sorry but I can't see your "yama" ( 山) I can see a serial number five thousand, six hundred and thirteen then the "ban" kanji 番 and then three further kanji, the first two of which I think are Hiroshima (廣島) but I can't get the third one. 

 

Best,

John

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I purchased the Francis Allan book "Japanese Imported Arms of the Early Meiji Period". Was well worth the price as it is an excellent reference.

 

In the book there is an Enfield Cavalry carbine with the same Hiroshima registration marks. I contacted the author and he was quite surprised to see another and suspected both carbines may have come from the same Han unit.

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On 8/1/2022 at 12:59 AM, Mainegundealer said:

Trying to get this translated. This is stamped on an 1853 Enfield barrel. Is there anyone that can help?

 

 

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Sorry - I've joined in a little late I'm afraid..I can't translate Japanese, but I do know quite a lot about Enfield Rifles - Patterns 1853 to 1865. From the photos you have given of the lock and side of the barrel your gun was made in Leige, Belgium - a major european manufacturing area at the time. (The ELG stamp tells me this as does the 'Pillar' stamp just infront of the nipple). The Crown is of course not the British Crown of Queen Victoria either.  If you (carefully) take the barrel off there will also be manfacturing marks on the underside of the barrel. It is unlikly this gun was owned by the British Government as it is a contract piece without any British proof marks. Best Jon

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On 8/3/2022 at 1:16 PM, Anthony de Vos said:

Hi!

 

Very interesting gun. I have an Enfield with the rare cutlass bayonet, they came also with the yathagan bayonet that was more common. My example have, beside the registration numbers, a beatiful inlay along the barrel.

 

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Now that Anthony is a nice gun. Exellent find! :0)

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