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Gordon Sanders
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.......He mentions he has a nice sword

 

Go to his house and my first impression is chinese fake.......

Gordon,

 

I can't really read Japanese but I don't see HIZEN TADAYOSHI on the paper. The other one is for the NAGAMORI.

 

If I may give you an advice: Don't buy anything until you have aquired the knowledge to tell what is fake and what is genuine. 

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haha. Interesting. my impression may have been colored by the fact that they are stored in the koshirae and it felt a bit cheap,

 

He absolutely only knows that he was told they were nice. Other than that he has no knowledge. Itis why he asked me.

 

I said I would ask the smart people

 

Guess I am a bit of a noob :-D

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  • 3 weeks later...

I may be able to kill 2 birds with one stone here...  that crazy looking odd 'kuni' in the Tadayoshi blade matches one signed by both Tadayoshi and Munenaga around 1613-14

 

(Date derived by signature comparison - from listing every Tadayoshi School sword in the land in chronological order - not from any other ref.)

 

and... I was wanting to contact Paul Bowman after reading about his Niji Mei Shodai/Sandai dilemma from way-way back but this blade in this blog is very current and the data I present here is relevant to the Tadayoshi seen in this thread.

 

I hope this clears up a previously vague area presented in a few books I've seen. 

 

You'll also see this pattern of making every-type of blade repeat itself later when the Shodai was teaching the Omi/Nidai around 1631.

 

Stop hating me for presenting the facts as the data shows.

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I previously suggested that the sword here was similar to that of a 1613 Tadayoshi... and it kinda is... but a character in the signature was one I had seen before when identifying what I called 'The Dream Team' (from Echizen)

 

...led by Soboro Sukehiro and his son Tsuda Sukehiro (+ Horimono master Nagasaka Yuhoken who also trained at the Umetada school) and student Sukenao.

 

I will GUESS it was a commission. All info/deduction is in the attached picture.

 

I still think that what is concidered as the 2nd best sword making team ever (just an opinion) produced the SHARPEST SWORDS that we now attribute to SHODAI TADAYOSHI. 

 

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On another note: ............ I'll speculate.

A 1628 sword signed Tadayoshi... seems to have been signed by either a child's hand (which would be Yukihiro or the Nidai Tadahiro using Tadayoshi as a name... that is if Masanaga>Tadayoshi(for 1 year) then Masahiro didn't use it for longer)... or the very ill Shodai himself who decided to continue using Tadayoshi while his progeny produced/commissioned Musashi Daijo Fujiwara Tadahiro's.  

 

I just at present can't see any 1624-1632 Musashi Tadahiro swords by the Shodai's hands.

 

 

 

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