Michael 67 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 what do you say to the Wakizashi? I got offered to buy it. Quote
Fuuten Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 Looks real. Refraining from the blade, the fittings seems quite nice (mainly tsuba, menuki and habaki too). Blade i think looks real but in bad state. Saya looks banged up as well. 1 Quote
Michael 67 Posted February 7, 2016 Author Report Posted February 7, 2016 can someone say something about the signature? Quote
Michael 67 Posted February 7, 2016 Author Report Posted February 7, 2016 is 1600 USD expensive for Wakizashi? Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 Considering its condition, I'd say it was worth $500-$700 at most. Both the blade & the koshirae need restoring. Ken 1 Quote
SteveM Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 can someone say something about the signature? 祐定 Sukesada. Plenty of fake signatures out there. Best to concentrate on the sword, and not the signature for this one. Agree that it is in need of a restoration, starting with a polishing which will cost from $1000 to $2000 (say $2000 when you factor in shipping, etc...). Could be a nice labor of love, but if you are looking for value there are plenty of other swords out there. 1 Quote
Stephen Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 As always in preservation one should not have have in back of their mind to regain cost rather than saving objets d'art. 2 Quote
Greg F Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 I think if you are willing to have it polished by a professional as well as saya restoration and/or shirasaya I think it would be a good one to keep providing your budget alows. As Steve said above it could be a labor of love. Most importantly you would be doing your part for Nihonto preservation. All the best. Greg 1 Quote
Ray Singer Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 To my eyes, $1,600 is not an unreasonable price. It would be helpful to see photos of the entire sword and koshirae, rather just the closeups you have provided. From what I can see it is a reasonably nice wakizashi in generally intact handachi koshirae. The tsuka looks to be in good condition and the tsukamaki does not need to be redone. The tsuba is done in katakiri-bori. The saya has some losses to the lacquer which will need to be addressed, however if there isn't damage to the saya towards the kojiri (the parts we cannot see in your photos) then it should be restorable. Looks like the blade is purporting to be a Bizen Sukesada, a group of smiths who generally signed with a nagamei (long signature). Some of the gunk we see on the blade in your photos may come off with pure alcohol. It would be good to start there and see if a new polish is even needed. Best regards, Ray Quote
GrozaB Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 I can't say anything about blade, but I fell in love with tsuba. It looksl like Yokoya tsubas from Boston Museum collection: http://www.mfa.org/collections/object/tsuba-with-design-of-shishi-and-cub-12090 http://www.mfa.org/collections/object/tsuba-with-design-of-shishi-and-young-13751 Quote
Michael 67 Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Posted February 10, 2016 very interesting. Thank you very much. Quote
Darcy Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 Considering its condition, I'd say it was worth $500-$700 at most. Both the blade & the koshirae need restoring. Ken I agree with this. Furthermore it will be worth less than the cost of restoration after restoration. So it is a candidate to buy if you like it as-is or you want to give to a hobby polisher to fix up. Nijimei Sukesada is flying in the mass production group. Quote
Darcy Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 As always in preservation one should not have have in back of their mind to regain cost rather than saving objets d'art. It can be done with oil and uchiko and patience in this case though. Quote
Ed Posted February 11, 2016 Report Posted February 11, 2016 I'm a bit bewildered as to how anyone can be comfortable enough to provide valuation estimates without photos of the entire sword. There are no photos of the Kissaki or of the Omote. What if the kissaki is broken, the second photo almost looks as though it was deliberately taken to exclude the kissaki ? Big nasty opening on the omote ? I don't know that there is any additional damage or flaws, but I do know that if there is unseen damage and the OP buys it, he going to say "the experts on the NMB told me it was worth it". It seems to me that when asking for values, one should be required to provide a minimum of necessary photos. I can't say anything about blade, but I fell in love with tsuba. It looksl like Yokoya tsubas from Boston Museum collection: Seriously ? The only thing this tsuba has in common with the Yokoya Soyo examples in your links is that the motif is of Shishi. Comparatively on a scale of 1-10 the tsuba in this thread is a 0 and the Soyo pieces are a 100. 2 Quote
Michael 67 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Posted February 11, 2016 I'm still waiting for more photos Quote
SAS Posted February 11, 2016 Report Posted February 11, 2016 Big rust pits that would not polish out; i would pass. Lots of swords in much better condition for this price. Quote
Michael 67 Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Posted February 13, 2016 More Pictures I will not buy the Wakizashi for 1600 Quote
Stephen Posted February 13, 2016 Report Posted February 13, 2016 last set of photos no. 4 of 6 far left on the top of hamon, is that a opening or another dark rust spot? Quote
Stephen Posted February 13, 2016 Report Posted February 13, 2016 Can be filled but not cost effective, it would bother you over time, IMHO Quote
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