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Hello,

        Shin-gunto Gimei Tada Yoshi housed in a quality rayskin saya with nice ishizuke . Nice bronze tsuba  with kitau type stamps and remaining gilt . Long nakago with what appears to be a field replacement leather sarute..Nice history with this sword.....surrendered to a British major who subsequently bequeathed it to the regimental museum who unfortunately had to sell it to raise funds..

                                                                                                                                                                                            Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Paul....

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Hello again,

                  Another nice quality shin-gunto signed by the 23rd generation of Kanefusa . Blade is housed in a nice lightweight saya the kuchi-gane has the patent stamp as found on page 33 of Military swords of Japan 1868-1945 by Fuller and Gregory. Tsuba has evidence of gilt still present . A very nice sword with a very ' balanced ' feel..

                                                                                                         Regards,

                                                                                                                       Paul..

 

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Mine aren't "mint" either, but I love my collection, so far:

Dad's Spring, 1941, Mantetsu Koa Isshin

NCO Guntos: Copper handle #2643; Alluminum tsuka #92605, and Wooden tsuka #211894

Navy Takayama-to in combat saya

Sukekuni April 1945 Type 3

Fuji Family Mon, unsigned Koto blade in Navy sharksin saya

1918 Otsu Cavalry Sword

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Martin - Have you gotten the Ka-mon translated? I found the bottom character is "Murakami", a Samuri name from old, but I don't know the top 2 characters.

Bruce - I've been using my "Japanese Art Signatures" book for several months trying to figure it out. I can't seem to come up with anything that makes sense. I'll keep plugging away at it though!

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Hi

Good topic and some very nice Gunto. Here's my small collection. The first my favourite, Ota Chikahide in Kai-gunto mounts. Second, Akitaka in Type 3 mounts with leather cover. Third Akimoto Akitomo, Type 98 with leather cover and last Kiyokatsu in Type 3 mounts.

Please keep posting folks.

Regards

Daniel

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Hi Hamish

 

Thank you for your kind words.

 

"Only" one million yen but as someone else once said, take those ratings with a pinch of salt. I think Chris Bowen in a previous thread mention him as one of the best smiths of the showa era and I'm bound to agree. If interested here's a link where this sword is discussed.

 

http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/12684-gendaito-ota-chikahide/

 

This goes to show what's said so many times before, don't buy because of ratings, fame or name alone. Each sword must be judged on its own merits.

 

Come on guys let those nice Gunto of yours coming.

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It must be a quirk in my personality that causes me to look at scratchings on seppa and writings underneath fuchi on shin gunto and Kai gunto.

 

Whilst I have seen one sword where the swordsmiths name was scratched on all of the seppa as well as on the tsuba, the impression that I get is that these scratchings on seppa whilst often numbers are occasionally the owners name rendered in (usually ) katakana .Unfortunately it is hard to prove this as the sword usually has no surrender tag with it that gives the owners name so that this can be compared with the name in the scrathings.

 

Similarly a number of swords have characters written in ink on the wood under the fuchi . Whilst these are often numbers, names also occasionally appear. Whilst it is possible that these are the names of the hilt binder or the person who put the sword together my suspicion is that these are also sometimes the owners name.

 

Some years ago I saw a kai gunto with an accompanying surrender tag that gave the owners name as Captain Ikeda. The name Ikeda was also scratched on the tsuba and was written in ink on the wood underneath the fuchi. I thought that this was reasonable evidence that these scratchings and writings are at least on occasions the owners name.

 

I noticed that on Daniels Chikahide Kai Gunto that not only is there a surrender tag but also legible characters under the fuchi. Daniel is there any connection between the name on the surrender tag and the characters written under the fuchi ?

 

Does anyone else out there look at this minutia ?

 

Ian Brooks

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Ian san,

I recently saw a gendaito in gunto Type 98 mounts and it had the owners name written in ink on the brown side of the tassel...it was written in katakana...a Japanese name (forget what it was now) but strange to see it written in kana.

 

And yes, I notice all those things you mention. I have a gendaito by an unknown maker "Shigekuni"...(maybe a modern member of the Nanki line?). It is a very nice sword (Type 98 with silver habaki) and it was surrendered to the Aussies on Halmahera in 1945.

The chap who apparently received this sword must have asked the original owner his details, or perhaps a Japanese prisoner translated a surrender tag for him, but anyway, faintly visible on the side of the BLADE (darn) just in front of the habaki is the scratch marks of a fountain pen with small traces of ink still present...it says in English

"Sword of 2nd Lt. Kume

Kaede (Yellow Autumn Leaves) Division

Made by Shigekuni"

Research shows that this is the 32nd Div., 2nd Army of the 2nd Area Southern Army (Gen. Inami) that was at Halmahera (N.E.I. Moluccas) at the close of the War. It consisted of the 210, 211 and 212 Tokyo Regiments of infantry. Most sources state that the Division was defeated by the Americans on Morotai (which is true) but let's not forget that the Australian were part of what the American media call an "Allied Force" that fought the Japanese to a standstill. Thos parts of the Division still on Halmahera surrended in August 1945.

It had a silver mon on the kabuto but it has been struck off.

 

Gotta love the WWII gendaito.

Regards,

George.

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Well, my collection is humble. I have but two guntos: a nice gendai kai gunto by Kuwayama Kanetaka in 1944, and a fine kyu gunto with a blade that strikes me as machine made...but is in the kind of mounts I'm told were designed to take older blades. I'll do a thread about the kyu gunto some day, but here they both are, for now.

 

(Please forgive the modern hangers and sword knot on the kai gunto; I do have an eye out for authentic ones.)

 

I also have an NCO sword. Is that considered a gunto?

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