Ko-Kinko

[christianmalterre]

Dear Gentlemen,

 

i´d ben happy so to post some real "Ko-Kinko" pieces here-

 

it may be fruitful for the beginners, so to see and maybe "feel" about- of what "Ko- Kinko" is. ?

 

(take it- do leave it...)

 

Christian

[b.hennick]

Please do!

[Ian]

That would be great!

[Jean]

Christian almighty, please do ...

[Stephen]

[christianmalterre]

seems, some guys here didn´t understand pretty well the sentence....?

well?-LOL!

 

this one is for  "take it-  -just do let it"... !!

 

"How-Ho-Hot-Puh!"

 

and you? (???)

 

LOL!

 

Me

[Guido]

seems, some guys here didn´t understand pretty well the sentence....?

 

Probably because of their poor English and lack of humor.

[Curran]

http://www.choshuya.co.jp/sale/kokinkou/kokinkou_sp_index.htm

 

Also a rather large technicolor one I have.

About 9.5cm in size, papered ko-kinko. Compared in size next to a Hirata.

[Soshin]

Jidai Ko-Kinko tsuba as a birthday gift from a friend who also collects tsuba. The base metal is refined copper. The photo was taken with my new iPhone 6+ which does nice photos. Enjoy it or not I could really careless because it was a gift not often given...

[Stephen]

Hallmark moment 

 

"its the thought that counts" 

[rkg]

Ah, I just got a couple of new "cheep and cheerful" ones that I just posted over on the kodogu no sekai facebook page:

 

first, a piece actually papered to ko-kinko:

 

http://www.rkgphotos.com/recent_stuff/new_ko_kinko_tsuba_3_4/kokinko_1a_front.jpg

http://www.rkgphotos.com/recent_stuff/new_ko_kinko_tsuba_3_4/kokinko_1a_back.jpg

 

second, one I believe to be ko-kinko:

 

http://www.rkgphotos.com/recent_stuff/new_ko_kinko_tsuba_3_4/kokinko_kiku_front.jpg

http://www.rkgphotos.com/recent_stuff/new_ko_kinko_tsuba_3_4/kokinko_kiku_shiny_front.jpg

http://www.rkgphotos.com/recent_stuff/new_ko_kinko_tsuba_3_4/kokinko_kiku_back.jpg

 

Best,

 

rkg

(Richard George)

[Brian]

Christian,

Sometimes I think you must live at a very high altitude..where the air is very thin.

:rotfl:

 

Brian

 

PS - Here is one I wish was ko-kinko, but is likely a late Edo interpretation of it.

 

 

[Ian]

?

[John A Stuart]

That kiku tsuba Curran, do you consider as one of those nicknamed San Diego tsuba? John

[Guido]

Ko-kinkō? Can do, Yoda!

 

Tokubetsu Hozon:

 

[Curran]

John:   sorry, forgive the east coast centric perspective- but I don't understand.

I'm probably 10x more familiar with Italy, Korea, and Japan than anything having to do with California.

Can you explain?

 

The appeal of that tsuba to me is that it just has layers of patina and color variation that just give the same vibe as old negoro.

The simplicity and seppa dai also remind me a lot of Hirata Hikozo works, and such works were probably a foundation for his designs. It is not coincidental that I photographed it with a Hirata (nidai).

Anyone wannta loan me a Hikozo for a photo of the two, I'll gladly accept it.

 

Guido: I have seen that before. Monkeys are not a theme I like very much, but the depiction of yours has an old elegance that I've always liked.

Nice depiction of "reaching for the moon" [Overreach]. Especially when he appears so relaxed on the other side.

[Steve Waszak]

Hi Curran,

 

I believe John is referring to the group of tsuba recovered from the shipwreck of the Spanish vessel, the San Diego, which went down in the middle of the Momoyama Period, around 1600 if I recall correctly...

 

Cheers,

 

Steve

[Brian]

http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/15017-san-diego-tsuba

 

Brian

[John A Stuart]

Yes, there were many kiku form tsuba in the cargo as well as others. The patina on your's Curran made me think of sea salvage. John

http://www.shibuiswords.com/sandiego.htm

[Grey Doffin]

Fuchi/kashira papered to Ko-Kinko by the Fittings Museum.

Grey

[Pete Klein]

"The patina on your's Curran made me think of sea salvage"...

 

Good innuendo is priceless! LOL

[Curran]

"The patina on your's Curran made me think of sea salvage"...

 

Good innuendo is priceless! LOL

 

Ah well, if he doesn't like it- he doesn't like it.

[John A Stuart]

It sounds worse than I meant Pete. Not really dissing it Curran. John

[Pete Klein]

LOL -- I'm just having fun, in more ways than one.

[jlawson]

I am liking this term of "sea salvage". At the shows of late I have seen a lot of things I thought might be sea salvage, sounds so much nicer than what could be said. :-) 

[MauroP]

Hi everybody,

I'm still unsure what this topic is about, anyway I wish to present a tsuba I think is ko-kinkō. The patina is greenish-brownish, really difficult to take in picture. Dimensions 68.2 x 63 x 3 mm, weight 76 g.

I have also some sanmai awase tsuba (三枚合鐔), which usually, if papered, obtain a ko-kinkō attribution (but none of mine has a certificate).

Bye, Mauro

[Marius]

Mauro, 

 

Your tsuba may be ko-kinko. But the karakusa carving seems to be later than the plate. It is too rigid and too controlled to be earlier than Edo. Also, I cannot see any wear in it. Just my opinion. Please compare this with one of my tsuba...

[MauroP]

Thank you Marius for commenting on my tsuba. I consider you the go-to guy for ko-kinkō tsuba, and I take your opinion in the utmost consideration.

Bye, Mauro

[Marius]

Mauro, 

 

Thank you for your kind words. I might be dead wrong and the carving might as well be original to the plate. With the enlarged hitsu ana encroaching on the design it looks old enough. But the carving is clean on the inside, no traces of lacquer... So it looks like a later addition (I say "looks" which is not equal to "is")

 

My opinion is... just an opinion, not very educated, too.

 

It is a very nice ko-kinko guard in any case

[rkg]

While being crazy busy photographing other people's pieces, I took the time to photograph another one of my ko-kinko tsuba. 

 

I've had this one for a while, but hadn't photographed it for a long time. 

 

 

 

 

 

Enjoy,

 

rkg

(Richard George)