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Hi Georges

you confirm what other members told me as you read in the forum!

its appreciate!

finaly i will not make window polish and just looking to sold the sabers!

thank you for helping me!

best regards

Eric P.

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hi all

Bruce....sorry i dont have any picture for the moment but i will post some pictures as soon as i get the Gunto....

George nice to see you on my tread after all this time!

thank you for your help and support and yes the Nagamitsu will be a good Christmas present!  :Drool:

regards

Eric P.

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Hello all

After all this years i finaly buy in my opinion a well good made gendaito!

Its the Nagamitsu that i was looking for long time ago... i really love the type 3 gunto and this one is in well good condition!! All is original no part missing almost brand new!

I was supose to buy it for christmas some years ago but sometime things happen in life that can change your plan!

Now im happy to share with you some pictures but i just have a cell phone for the pics

Regards

Eric.

 

 

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The serial number range for these is as below.  It is unknown if this was only used on Nagamitsu 長光 or for all production from Ōsaka Arsenal.

0 (zero) series: 阪 1867 to 阪 3991.

1st series: 阪 イ313.

 

Three of them can be seen at this link Stamp Survey while 3991 can be found at Nagamitsu Type44 Mounting. New Today ! .

 

I have one Gassan Sakakatsu but the order is reversed, 1 and then 阪.  In addition, it is star stamped unlike the swords above so it could be unrelated.

Star Stamped Sword Gassan Sadakatsu Rikugun Jumei Tosho

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Here's my chart on Osaka:

 

Updated Chart (for some reason, cannot delete old chart!!!):

Saka

1943, Jun

Sadakatsu (RJT) Star, 1

EdHicks NMB, Rinji

1944

Unknown

From Fuller Survey

1944, Mar

Unknown

From Fuller Survey

1944, May

Unknown

From Fuller Survey

1944, Nov

Masaharu

Mecox, NMB

1944, Apr

Masayoshi (RJT)

Cillo, pg 110

1944, Sep

Sadashige, (RJT) Star

Cillo, pg 153

ND

Nagamitsu, 313 on mune

Ooitame NMB, Rinji

ND

Nagamitsu, 1431 mune

Cillo, pg 124

ND

Nagamitsu,  1861 mune

Rancho, NMB, RS

ND

Nagamitsu, 2005 on mune

Reeder, NMB

No Date

Nagamitsu, 13490 mune

VajS NMB Rinji

ND

Nagamitsu, 3973

IJASWORDS, NMB, Broken heart seppa

ND

Nagamitsu, 3991

Mauser99, NMB

No Date

Nagamitsu

Ooitame NMB

 

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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On 10/13/2021 at 1:19 PM, Bruce Pennington said:

Here's my chart on Osaka:

 

Updated Chart (for some reason, cannot delete old chart!!!):

Saka

 

1943, Jun

 

Sadakatsu (RJT) Star, 1

 

EdHicks NMB, Rinji

 

1944

 

Unknown

 

From Fuller Survey

 

1944, Mar

 

Unknown

 

From Fuller Survey

 

1944, May

 

Unknown

 

From Fuller Survey

 

1944, Nov

 

Masaharu

 

Mecox, NMB

 

1944, Apr

 

Masayoshi (RJT)

 

Cillo, pg 110

 

1944, Sep

 

Sadashige, (RJT) Star

 

Cillo, pg 153

 

ND

Nagamitsu, 313 on mune

 

Ooitame NMB, Rinji

 

ND

 

Nagamitsu, 1431 mune

 

Cillo, pg 124

 

ND

 

Nagamitsu,  1861 mune

 

Rancho, NMB, RS

 

ND

 

Nagamitsu, 2005 on mune

 

Reeder, NMB

 

No Date

 

Nagamitsu, 13490 mune

 

VajS NMB Rinji

 

ND

 

Nagamitsu, 3973

 

IJASWORDS, NMB, Broken heart seppa

 

ND

 

Nagamitsu, 3991

 

Mauser99, NMB

 

No Date

Nagamitsu

 

Ooitame NMB

 

 

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

Woah Bruce big work on that chart!!

Good info collected thru the time!

Thanks for sharing this!!!

I notice a little error in the chart .....

My Nagamitsu type 3 serial number

Is 1867 not 1861 

When i bought the Nagamitsu,i ask the seller if he have some info about the blade....he told me that he bought it a couple years ago from a guy in the USA, and told me a war time storie about a GI's unit that found a lot of around 200 brand new type 3 gunto that have been never delivered to soldier, the GI's split the lot between them and bring them back home, and thats why we can find a lot of Nagamitsu blade in superb condition!!! They never see the battlefield !

Have you ever ear  this storie before?

Regards

Eric

 

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4 hours ago, rancho said:

Is 1867 not 1861 

Thanks Eric, it's fixed.

 

I have not heard that story, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit.  I'm sure at war's end, there were hundreds of sword shops, antique stores, forges, and arsenal warehouses loaded with gunto in process of distribution.

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